Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....

The point of her post being of course that no one is running around with their hair on fire until the treatment is used for a trans child

And yet pro gender ideologists are advocating for it.

For children you say are 'trans'

I honestly don't think you can see what you're saying.

She has so clearly made a mistake and mixed up the contraceptive pill and puberty blockers.
The obvious response from advocates for puberty blockers would be to say 'nice try, thanks for the thought, but btw you've mixed up different drugs there'.
That there are people actually trying to do the impossible and justify that she is right and not mistaken completely discredits them. Surely it is better to just accept and acknowledge she made a mistake? That wouldnt discredit their campaign. Backing this nonsense really does.

GrouchyKiwi, I was told by multiple GPS when I had heavily periods as a teenager in the late 90s/early 2000s that I cannot be bleeding that heavily as you only lose a few teaspoons of blood during a period.

Jameela's tweet right before that one is:

Teen cosmetic surgery is at an all time high? I wonder why? apparently they bring their filtered pictures in to meet the surgeons as a prescription of how they wish to look. We have to stop using these apps for them, and for our own sanity. They are designed to create self hate.

She doesn't seem to have made any connection between the two.

Isn't Jameela being a bit transphobic with her language though?

Surely it should say 'Loads of menstruators at my school were on them...'???

Treating heavy periods with puberty blockers makes no sense. It will stop someone developing further than where they are at that point in puberty. And they have to be fully in puberty because they have periods. So yes, it will stop periods, but to no effect as the minute you stop taking them, the periods will start again. And probably just as heavy as before. So no, I cannot believe pb will ever in real life be prescribed for heavy periods, when there are other options available and pb don't solve a thing and cause delay in development as well as medical risks.

What is important is that there are good statistics collected about periods and how women and girls experience them so that better research could be done and some day someone would find a better solution for heavy periods without having to go on the pill or just live with it.

from document linked above:
"In secondary care, gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) agonists have been used to stop the production of oestrogen and progesterone, thereby decreasing menstrual blood loss and resulting in amenorrhoea in 89% of women. Owing to their AEs (e.g. osteoporosis, vasomotor symptoms) long-term use (>6 months) is not recommended. GnRH agonists are principally used pre-operatively to decrease peri-operative blood loss and to reduce uterine and fibroid size"

There is no way this would be common treatment for teenage girls. It was most likely a pre-surgery short term option for older women.

An actor, MissMaple82.

She was in the Netflix original series The Good Place

Oh, and if all those girls were happy with stunted breasts and prepubescent bone growth, does that mean they were all suffering from gender dysphoria?

In which case trans children have been prescribed PBs since the '90s after all (according to Jameela)?

Who is jamillia jamil ?

So loads of girls in Jameela's school were happy to have prepubescent breasts and an altered bone growth pattern to help them deal with heavy periods?

When other treatments wouldn't come with those side effects?

And those girls were happy to have stunted development all through high school and beyond?

And doctors were happy to go along with this treatment?

Do you not think this...stretches credulity, Shizuku?

There is also someone in the comments who seems to be complaining that her doctors are currently refusing to prescribe puberty blockers for precocious puberty, and various people are explaining why that might be, by linking her to the article that I myself quoted upthread.

Correction: NICE suggest that GNRHa can be considered for use in women with fibroids over 3cm, before myectomy or hysterectomy only.

I will eat my hat if this applied to teenagers in the 90s, in the Uk, where Jameela was at school, with multiple girls of her acquaintance. Didn’t happen.

No! Colour me gobsmacked!

Was she the horrible attention seeker who would go home and complain to mummy that everyone was mean to her because they were so jealous of her beauty?

Toffee, Someone who was at school with her has commented on twitter, to the effect of wut. This didn't happen.

It's almost as if none of us here were teenagers in the 90's. I guess our lived experience is of no interest.

Anyway article about treatment here. GNRH used in specific circumstances and for very short period of time.

pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/ld/heavy-menstrual-bleeding-diagnosis-and-management-options

However let's just say, our lived experience is wrong and lots of teenagers were prescribed them, 20 years on a lot more is known, so just because something that didn't happened then, doesn't mean it should now.

Well someone here must’ve been at the same school as her around the same time. It would have been common knowledge, no?

Jameela's 'yeah loadsa girls were on them when I was at school, they are absolutely fiiiiiiiine' is not only total bullshit but dangerous bullshit as well.

How could someone with that sort of platform spread such dangerous misinformation?

The point of her post being of course that no one is running around with their hair on fire until the treatment is used for a trans child.

What are you talking about?

Hormone blockers for heavy periods are a last resort 5th/6th/7th line treatment when other treatments have not worked. Presumably the reason for this is because they are serious drugs with serious side effects and should only be used in very specific cases.

You are advocating putting any and every child who wants to, onto puberty blockers because.... They want to go onto puberty blockers

You can prove it isn't transphobia by extending the anti-PBs rhetoric and campaigning to include girls who are receiving them for HMB

I am implacably against the use of GNRHas for anyone, including any adolescent, for any reason with the possible exception of extremely early puberty. I’d be against it for use in teenage girls with heavy periods, if that was happening, which I would need more evidence of than the Twitter musings of an actress known for exaggeration, and an oblique mention on Wikipedia.

You’ll see why I feel so,strongly if you scroll upthread and read my account of my own personal, hellish experience of them.

Does that help?

You can prove it isn't transphobia by extending the anti-PBs rhetoric and campaigning to include girls who are receiving them for HMB.

Sorry? Am I missing something. We have been talking for a number of years about the dangers of these drugs for use on girls?

I think you are really reaching here to be declaring transphobia. It rather seems more like deflection and distraction. And I also think it highlights a distinct lack of knowledge about menstrual issues in general.

You can prove it isn't transphobia by extending the anti-PBs rhetoric and campaigning to include girls who are receiving them for HMB

It is only you and Jameela who believe this is happening.