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Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....

361 replies

GizmoBasil · 14/04/2021 08:06

She's mainly being pulled apart in the comments due to, you know, lying.

No doubt in my mind that she's getting puberty blockers and the contraceptive pill mixed up.

Such a shame as I have been following her since my early 20's and found her feminism very accessible back then.

Am I being unreasonable to say she's talking nonsense??

Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....
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yourhairiswinterfire · 15/04/2021 09:57

Most of us were expected to put up and shut up about heavy periods in the 90s. If you were lucky you got a prescription for the contraceptive pill. We'd never even heard of puberty blockers in the 90s.

Mine started in 2004, and even then the GP's were shit. I was made to feel like I was exaggerating the pain and amount of blood loss, told the pain was normal and it's something that would settle and I'd eventually 'get used to it' Hmm. Dismissed with painkillers that I'd already told him didn't work every time I went to the GP and advised to use a hot water bottle or heat pad, use those long, thick night time sanitary towels for the blood loss.

No mention of the contraceptive pill. I was an adult by the time I realised that was an option to help, it was never something my GP suggested. Definitely no mention of puberty blockers.

Now I'm late 20s and my periods are still torture, and still no mention of puberty blockers. I've done a fuckton of research to try and find something that works for me, and I haven't seen GnRHs mentioned once.

GP is only bothered to investigate the pain and heavy bleeding now because I'm struggling to conceive. I find it really hard to believe that things were better than this for teens in the 90s.

Honestly, people must think we came down in the last shower if they think we're going to fall for this shit.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 15/04/2021 09:43

Well from the ‘school days recollection’ accounts by a supposed ex classmate that I’ve read on twitter (of course it could be all made up but there seemed to be an interaction between the tweeter and JJs mum, so who knows) I suspect the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree - so I suspect no Damascene conversion will ever occur.

HotTomatoes · 15/04/2021 09:27

I hope live long enough to see JJ become (the dreaded!) middle aged woman. I am 99% certain she is going to cringe to the high heavens at her prolific social media nonsense spouting.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 15/04/2021 08:42

So - if you were to take PBS for heavy periods... what exactly would happen when you stopped taking them? How would taking them affect your body on the meantime?

HermitsLife · 15/04/2021 07:55

@SingingSands

I was a teenager in the 90s. As were a lot of women here probably. This tweet makes me really angry. Most of us were expected to put up and shut up about heavy periods in the 90s. If you were lucky you got a prescription for the contraceptive pill. We'd never even heard of puberty blockers in the 90s.

But JJ tweeting this isn't just her rewriting history. She's making it appear to today's teenagers that this is something they should be entitled to, something they can take easily, pop some puberty blockers and you'll be fiiine.

Angry

I was a teenager in the late 80s/ early 90d and then the cure was a Paracetamol, a hot water bottle and a lie down if it was really bad. Hmm
Wandawomble · 15/04/2021 01:59

Lies that are actively encouraging harm to children. Who is she being paid by? No interest in child safeguarding whatsoever.
Her tweets need to be catalogued and recorded for when the lawsuits hit.

Needmoresleep · 14/04/2021 23:57

I was also coming on to point out that Jameela went to a small, posh, but not very academically selective girl's school, just north of Oxford Street. (Peaches Geldof was another Queens College alumna.)

Girls would have had better access to private healthcare and so more likely to be treated for heavy/painful periods, but this is unlikely to have taken the form of a novel and experimental treatment. I would not be surprised if parents of some of the more 'sociable' in the cohort encouraged the use of the contraceptive pill to treat heavy periods, given the main side effect is, well, contraception.

YouNoob · 14/04/2021 23:53

But JJ tweeting this isn't just her rewriting history. She's making it appear to today's teenagers that this is something they should be entitled to, something they can take easily, pop some puberty blockers and you'll be fiiine.

This. ☝️

toffeebutterpopcorn · 14/04/2021 23:13

Run over whilst fleeing bees.

Smokeahontas · 14/04/2021 23:11

@RoyalCorgi

Jameela Jamil is the one who's always being attacked by bees, isn't she?

Anyway, you wouldn't prescribe puberty blockers for heavy periods. You'd prescribe them for premature puberty. I'd be very surprised if there were lots of children at her school going through premature puberty.

LOL at ‘the one who’s always being attacked by bees’ Grin lying in bed roaring at this.
SingingSands · 14/04/2021 23:10

I was a teenager in the 90s. As were a lot of women here probably. This tweet makes me really angry. Most of us were expected to put up and shut up about heavy periods in the 90s. If you were lucky you got a prescription for the contraceptive pill. We'd never even heard of puberty blockers in the 90s.

But JJ tweeting this isn't just her rewriting history. She's making it appear to today's teenagers that this is something they should be entitled to, something they can take easily, pop some puberty blockers and you'll be fiiine.

Angry
toffeebutterpopcorn · 14/04/2021 23:03

@theThreeofWeevils

I am quite prepared to believe significant numbers of Jamil's peers, or indeed a majority, were on contraceptive pills to deal with heavy/painful periods. Being well acquainted with the school in question, I think it is fair to say that most pupils' families would have had the option of private healthcare, and it's amazing how much more seriously period issues tend to be taken in that environment.
I did get on the bus one day with a girl from her old senior school who was hugging a hot waterbottle to her tummy.

Maybe they have terrible periods on Harley Street?

Summerdayshaze · 14/04/2021 22:56

She’s a fantasist. Pathological liar.

UnderHisAye · 14/04/2021 22:34

I think given how popular Mooncups are now that we can safely put that 'few teaspoons' nonsense to rest!

StrangeLookingParasite · 14/04/2021 21:59

@Pandoraslastchance

GrouchyKiwi, I was told by multiple GPS when I had heavily periods as a teenager in the late 90s/early 2000s that I cannot be bleeding that heavily as you only lose a few teaspoons of blood during a period.
I remember my mother telling me about a friend of hers who got told that by a doctor, when the friend was asking for a hysterectomy because of out of control bleeding. So she saved her next period in a bucket and took it to him. She got her hysterectomy.
SunsetBeetch · 14/04/2021 21:30

@Pandoraslastchance

GrouchyKiwi, I was told by multiple GPS when I had heavily periods as a teenager in the late 90s/early 2000s that I cannot be bleeding that heavily as you only lose a few teaspoons of blood during a period.
Oh yes I remember that old chestnut. One of the clots I passed (and there would be lots) when sat on the toilet would have filled an egg cup.
Datun · 14/04/2021 21:25

@WarriorN

Great minds/ cross post 🤣 datun
🥂😁
theThreeofWeevils · 14/04/2021 21:10

I am quite prepared to believe significant numbers of Jamil's peers, or indeed a majority, were on contraceptive pills to deal with heavy/painful periods. Being well acquainted with the school in question, I think it is fair to say that most pupils' families would have had the option of private healthcare, and it's amazing how much more seriously period issues tend to be taken in that environment.

Helleofabore · 14/04/2021 20:38

@Pandoraslastchance

GrouchyKiwi, I was told by multiple GPS when I had heavily periods as a teenager in the late 90s/early 2000s that I cannot be bleeding that heavily as you only lose a few teaspoons of blood during a period.
Oh yes!! That nugget of information!

My reply that I would lose that in one clot was scoffed at.

Helleofabore · 14/04/2021 20:37

GrouchyKiwi

Exactly Grouchy. I think any girl or woman discussing period issues would have come across that in the 90s. Strange that posters pushing hard for Jameela’s tweet to be taken as being true have not acknowledged the lived experiences of many on this thread.

I was also told to suck up my PMT issues and once was told that I was obviously trying to get a Valium prescription.... because every other female seems to deal with PMT why can’t you?

And this was in towards the end of the 90s as well!!!

WarriorN · 14/04/2021 20:33

The other point is that when used on a child with precious puberty, it delays puberty to a more normal time, allowing time for bones to grow more and not heal over, though there's clearly still many with side effects.

Delaying puberty at a normal puberty is an entirely different kettle of fish.,

R0wantrees · 14/04/2021 20:33

5./ The man who popularised giving puberty blockers to under 16s was Dr Norman Spack. He gave puberty blockers to a very few British kids who travelled to the US including that of Susie Green. He started doing this not in the 90s but in 2007

Dr Norman Spack TedTalk
'How I help transgender teens become who they want to be'

(I find Spack's attitudes to children disconcerting)

WarriorN · 14/04/2021 20:31

Great minds/ cross post 🤣 datun

WarriorN · 14/04/2021 20:30

In case not seen, here's Malcolm Clark's good thread on it all:

twitter.com/twisterfilm/status/1382304132942413836?s=21

Datun · 14/04/2021 20:26

From malcolm Clark

The first science paper on the subject of a trial giving GnRH agonists (or puberty blockers) to adolescents was published in 1998 and was the subject of a 1996 C4 documentary. This highly experimental trial happened in Holland and NOT Jameela's school. Strangely enough.

5./ The man who popularised giving puberty blockers to under 16s was Dr Norman Spack. He gave puberty blockers to a very few British kids who travelled to the US including that of Susie Green. He started doing this not in the 90s but in 2007

8./ So, every claim Jameela made is unsupportable. Puberty blockers are likely NOT reversible, and no one can say for certain they are. They've been prescribed by Gender Identity clinics in Britain only since 2011, in the US since 2007, and are NOT given to treat heavy periods

mobile.twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1382304177309749251