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Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....

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GizmoBasil · 14/04/2021 08:06

She's mainly being pulled apart in the comments due to, you know, lying.

No doubt in my mind that she's getting puberty blockers and the contraceptive pill mixed up.

Such a shame as I have been following her since my early 20's and found her feminism very accessible back then.

Am I being unreasonable to say she's talking nonsense??

Jameela Jamil just tweeted this....
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Tibtom · 14/04/2021 08:39

@ASugarr

Actually she isn't wrong. If taken correctly, they are reversible.
It is reversible in the same sense that if you use drugs to put a baby in an induced coma for twenty years you can remove the drugs and they will wake up. But they will wake up wothout having undergone any the learning and development in that time, with atrophied muscles, etc. But the drug inducing the coma was reversible as they woke up.
MelissaVonStressel · 14/04/2021 08:39

There's a thread on a forum that I can't link (not a farming one) where they list all the dubious things with dates of things Jameela claims have happened to her. She really isn't the brightest spark.

Helleofabore · 14/04/2021 08:39

X post with lasagne.

Helleofabore · 14/04/2021 08:38

@ASugarr

Actually she isn't wrong. If taken correctly, they are reversible.
No. The lasting side effects from puberty blockers, such as Lupron, are quite well documented by now.

I suggest you do some research into the women who took them 10+ years ago for precocious puberty.

AfternoonToffee · 14/04/2021 08:36

Wasn't there a previous discussion around the meaning of the word reversible and the medical and mainstream meanings being slightly but significantly different.

MoltenLasagne · 14/04/2021 08:35

Here's the original website from those oh-so-boring cis-women who were trying to organise against Lupron, one of a number of puberty blockers.

Have a read of their side effects and tell me again that puberty blockers are reversible and the only people who have issues with giving them to children are anti-trans.
www.lupronvictimshub.com/

ASugarr · 14/04/2021 08:32

gids.nhs.uk/puberty-and-physical-intervention

OhHolyJesus · 14/04/2021 08:32

The pill was also prescribed for spots. That's how I ended up on Dianette in the 90s. She's confused and wrong and that's why you shouldn't listen to what people say on Twatter.

It's a shame as a lot of young women and girls think she's great because of the body positivity thing but they don't see how it's just a bit IDK, styled.

NancyDrawed · 14/04/2021 08:32

@ASugarr

Actually she isn't wrong. If taken correctly, they are reversible.
Source for that please.
EdgeOfACoin · 14/04/2021 08:30

What the NHS currently says about puberty blockers:

Puberty blockers (gonadotrophin-releasing hormone analogues) pause the physical changes of puberty, such as breast development or facial hair.

Little is known about the long-term side effects of hormone or puberty blockers in children with gender dysphoria.

Although GIDS advises this is a physically reversible treatment if stopped, it is not known what the psychological effects may be.

It's also not known whether hormone blockers affect the development of the teenage brain or children's bones. Side effects may also include hot flushes, fatigue and mood alterations.

www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/

frazzledasarock · 14/04/2021 08:30

I went to an all girls school in the 90’s too. Girls were put on the pill for heavy painful periods. And one had to also take a various concoction of painkillers. Turns out she had very bad endo. But we were never referred for further investigation.

The pill is still the go to for girls suffering periods. I’ve had to fight for referrals to investigate the reason behind the heavy periods.

I thought she’d deleted her Twitter account last time after a ludicrous tweet.

YouNoob · 14/04/2021 08:27

@ComDummings

Yeah she’s definitely got them confused with the pill. This is why celebrities having a platform is dangerous, they spread misinformation and people will believe them.

You just know that the misinformation is going to spread from that one tweet and before you know what's happening, it'll be spouted as fact.

BadGherkin · 14/04/2021 08:27

This is so dangerous. All those people agreeing with her and thanking her for speaking out about denying puberty blockers to trans children only.....

The tweet needs to be deleted and a retraction and apology posted to try to contain the fallout - but given the author and history, I very much doubt that will occur.

GizmoBasil · 14/04/2021 08:26

@ASugarr do you have a source for that?
Do you really think there were 'loads' of girls at her school on PB's and she isn't getting confused with the contraceptive pill?

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GizmoBasil · 14/04/2021 08:24

Hope her partner is using condoms because jamila might well be popping a Smartie everynday, thinking it's birth control

Ffs I'm out hahahaha Grin

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ASugarr · 14/04/2021 08:24

Actually she isn't wrong. If taken correctly, they are reversible.

GizmoBasil · 14/04/2021 08:22

This is why celebrities having a platform is dangerous, they spread misinformation and people will believe them

Agreed. I also don't like how she's made it into yet another war between trans and cis (her words), saying 'Because they were cis it was fine".

Even if this were true (its not) people are responding with articles about the damage PB's do , no doubt a lot of which wouldn't have been known about in the 90's.

So all in all it's not going well for her in the Twittersphere right now.

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Umbivalent · 14/04/2021 08:22

She means well, but unfortunately she is quite dim.

Fromage · 14/04/2021 08:21

She's confused.

If a transwoman wants to bring down her testosterone in order to compete in some professional sports, she goes on the pill.

I think jamila has the two mixed up.

Hope her partner is using condoms because jamila might well be popping a Smartie everynday, thinking it's birth control. She doesn't have the best grasp on the subject but then she listens to monroe bergdorf so what hope is there?

cinnamonroll1 · 14/04/2021 08:20

They're also used for endometriosis sometimes. So maybe she knew a girl with heavy painful periods due to endo, who was on them? Or perhaps I'm being too charitable...

MoltenLasagne · 14/04/2021 08:19

Puberty blockers are so toxic that even when properly used for precocious puberty the handling guidelines requires you wear gloves and change clothes after injecting. It strictly warns against washing those clothes with non-contaminated clothes.

Women (some may call them cis-women) who were on the drugs for precocious puberty have been in long legal battles to try to get compensation for the side effects they have suffered.

So no Jameela, these are not just easy pills to pop with no side effects, and actually the horrific consequences of these have been called out for over 20 years by the victims long before they became the wonder drug for gender non conforming children.

highame · 14/04/2021 08:19

Couldn't agree more ComD

ComDummings · 14/04/2021 08:17

Yeah she’s definitely got them confused with the pill. This is why celebrities having a platform is dangerous, they spread misinformation and people will believe them.

Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 14/04/2021 08:17

She is notorious for, ahem, 'inconsistencies' about her past, so I would imagine this is another one of those times where she has got herself a little bit mixed up.

I was also at an all girls school in the 90s and can confirm that puberty blockers for heavy periods was not A Thing.

yetanotherusernameAgain · 14/04/2021 08:16

Puberty blockers are used for precocious puberty but that's puberty before the age of 8. Would be very surprised if she had known "loads" of girls suffering from early puberty, or had even been aware of it at primary school.