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Labour promises bill to protect women and girls in wake of Sarah Everard killing

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stumbledin · 12/04/2021 00:10

I cant find this on the labour party web site, but apparently they are putting forward a bill to make those harsher sentencing for violence against women. eg:

"It would end the anomaly that sees men convicted of killing their partner at home receiving sentences as much as 10 years shorter than those who murder a stranger in the street."

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sarah-everard-keir-starmer-women-b1829712.html

Not posting because I in any way support the Labour Party or any party just wondered what others think?

From another article:

  1. Action to bring rapists to justice – rape convictions are at an all-time low with just 1.5% of people charged with rape are getting convicted, yet rape reports are up by 35%. We should fast track rape and serious sexual assault cases through the courts and CPS who have been left to wait years for their case to get to trial.
  1. New laws to stop harassment - as it stands creeps harassing women on the street are not breaking the law. That makes no sense and we need a new law now.
  1. Men who abduct, assault and murder women belong behind bars for life – let’s extend ‘Whole Life’ sentences for anyone found guilty of ‘abduction and sexual assault and murder of a stranger’.
  1. Proper support for victims of attacks – create a survivor support package, including a legal help for victims and better training for professionals to give people the help they need.
  1. Educate our young people – start a proper education campaign to make sure young boys and girls knows it is never acceptable to abuse or disrespect women- as well as the rules around sexual consent.
  1. Longer jail time for rapists and stalkers – some of the sentences handed out for these appalling crimes are a disgrace. Let’s make sure the time fits the crime.
  1. Treat domestic murders seriously – end the injustice that means someone can get a sentence of 10 years less for murdering their partner at home, than for murdering someone on the street.
  1. Make abuse of women count – the abuse of women that drives these crimes is not even counted by the police, that needs to change and misogyny should be recognized as the hateful crime it is.
  1. Fair access to Domestic Abuse services – no victim turned away from services for domestic abuse because of their background. Helping get support to all those who need it and making sure we can do more to catch perpetrators.
  1. It’s not women’s fault – stop the message that women are to blame because of what they wear, when they are out or for not ‘keeping themselves safe’. Time for a proper strategy to catch and punish offenders, challenge behaviour and improve the freedom of all women.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/10-point-plan-keep-women-23731333

Of course this all assumes the police catch the perpetrators and the CPS agrees for that there is enough evidence for it to go to court.

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stumbledin · 12/04/2021 00:48

'Fair access to Domestic Abuse services – no victim turned away from services for domestic abuse because of their background'

hmmmm .... I didn't see that. Do they mean "background" which is what? Or is this some new way of saying gender identity? Or worse that they dont think refuges should have the right to provide single sex services as allowed under the EA?

Shock
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NiceGerbil · 12/04/2021 00:43

'Fair access to Domestic Abuse services – no victim turned away from services for domestic abuse because of their background'

I'm also not sure what they're alluding to here. They seem to be making a broad statements that across the board services are turning women away. Are they? Is this a problem with all of them? Which backgrounds?

I'm sure they know what they mean and have stats and case studies so they need to share them.

NiceGerbil · 12/04/2021 00:41

This using the same words to mean different things depending on context really pisses me off. Anyway.

Some of the points are good some need thought.

Street harassment, how are they defining that? Lots of types of street harassment are illegal. What needs to happen is be sure that women and girls know that and make sure it's followed up etc if they report. Their statement that it's not illegal full stop is pretty worrying. It makes them sound nice but it gives women and girls who read it the wrong idea which could have real life consequences.

The 'fast tracking' of certain cases is bound to lead to accusations of special treatment for women and could be counter productive. The problem that needs fixing is how the police CPS handle these cases.

I've read that juries are disinclined to find men guilty of rape because they don't want to ruin a man's life (yes that's another topic). As such all too often the bar is not any reasonable doubt, but any doubt at all no matter how preposterous. So if the automatic term is higher will that adversely affect verdicts? I don't know. Do they? Have they even thought about it

Very mixed feelings

The language used is also very. Unprofessional? Casual?

Altogether nice sounding words but the delivery and content gives me pause.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 12/04/2021 00:41

No use if labour can't even define what a woman is.

SEX based violence and abuse.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/04/2021 00:29

Educate our young people – start a proper education campaign to make sure young boys and girls knows it is never acceptable to abuse or disrespect women

LOL. They can start with their members and supporters.