Ireland will no longer be providing single sex toilets in primary and secondary schools!!!

I can just imagine how many teenage boys might use the justification of 'I was just using the urinal' if they want to flash teenage girls. etc. etc

Surely SURELY there won't be urinals in unisex toilets? Flashing is a crime

[quote ASugarr]Here's some further information on this:

www.commercialwashroomsltd.co.uk/blog/washroom-design/are-unisex-toilets-legal-in-schools.html[/quote]
Just wanted to point out that the 'further information' you provided is from a commercial company that builds these washrooms, of course it's in their own interest to say how great they are. They had a total of one case study - not exactly resounding research!

In any case, I look at the photos they provide and think how uncomfortable both boys and girls may feel coming out of the bathrooms to be confronted by the opposite sex. At that age, bullying and teasing is rife already, in my mind taking away single sex spaces may just make it worse.
I can just imagine how many teenage boys might use the justification of 'I was just using the urinal' if they want to flash teenage girls. etc. etc.

ASugarr I think if these young people are old enough to have to learn some of the subjects they do, especially when they are in secondary school then they have the ability to make a choice of what bathroom they wish to use.

Fair enough, but what about students who don't wish to share their space with the opposite sex - shouldn't they have a choice too?

By all means, add a third unisex space, but I don't think removing single sex spaces is the way forward.

So, to deal with emergency situations doors will be able to be easily opened from the outside. The Dept of Education doesn't foresee a problem with this.

Well maybe they should read all the links above then. How stupid do you have to be to think this is progress?

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/dec/12/are-we-ignoring-an-epidemic-of-sexual-violence-in-schools

I guess the answer to the guardian question is for Ireland yes, and enabling it.

And you can come talk to the Muslim lady in my area currently talking to the papers and the council about not being able to use loos in the parks because they've all gone gender neutral. Who knows how many other women she's speaking for. Come and tell her there's 'no problem'.

And so far no issues have come up.

Oh pull the other one.

This political agenda does everything it can to prevent anyone with a problem having a voice, to avoid recording incidents, to minimise the incidents that escape into the public view and to victim blame.

There are 'no problems' with this in refuges - apart from the women with massive problems who no one cares about and who have been excluded

There are 'no problems' with this in prisons - apart from the women who have been harassed and sexually assaulted.

This does not work for all females. Own it.

So, to deal with emergency situations doors will be able to be easily opened from the outside. The Dept of Education doesn't foresee a problem with this.

Sigh.

[quote ArabellaScott]www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56558487

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/27/sexual-abuse-rife-in-state-schools-say-police[/quote]
Interesting. Thank you for sharing 💜

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/dec/12/are-we-ignoring-an-epidemic-of-sexual-violence-in-schools

www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-34138287

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56558487

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/27/sexual-abuse-rife-in-state-schools-say-police

www.endviolenceagainstwomen.org.uk/campaign/metoo-at-school/

Some have just turned 11 in secondary schools.

Asugrr

There's a rape a day in schools

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3891493/girls-scared-unisex-toilets-period-shaming-harassment/

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/unisex-toilets-period-shaming-sexual-harassment-schools-girls-womens-voices-wales-a8784226.html

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/education/pupils-missing-school-because-dont-15839558

And I dont think giving kids the choice is a good idea either.

Sometimes they need protecting from themselves. Adults are supposed to step in and make the decisions fir them until they are old enough and wise enough to make them.

But why can't it be done as a single sex space?

A more open plan girls toilet and an open plan boys toilet?

And how, when schools clearly have no idea the level of sexual assault that goes on in their premises, can we believe they have an accurate picture of whether bullying etc is really reduced.

Bullies don't just wake up one day and go,.oh I.cant thump someone in the toilet I'll.stop being an.arsehole now. They just take it somewhere else.

Here's some more information. I personally think it's a wonderful idea. I don't think all toilets in a school should be unisex, but it at least gives young people the choice to if they want to or if they prefer to use their genders bathroom.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-scotland-39192130

Here's some further information on this:

www.commercialwashroomsltd.co.uk/blog/washroom-design/are-unisex-toilets-legal-in-schools.html

Glasgow have been trailing it. Plus schools in england have opened up their bathrooms so one side is males and the other is females, but are within the same room. And so far no issues have come up.

Many schools have already done this and it actually has been rather successful. It's meant there are less assults, fights and arguments in bathrooms. Means students are less likely to hide in those bathrooms. And makes it an overall safer space.

Peanut as proven by Man Friday, the police would be called immediately. This about oppressing and subordinating female people and their spaces. It's about ownership.

What will happen is what we've predicted from the start: the girls without sufficient privilege to cope will be forced out of the space and lose access to toilets. They won't drink. They'll miss school when they have periods. They'll do whatever is necessary to not have to go into the toilets. They will be in massive majority girls with protected characteristics and vulnerabilities who are more marginalised than the yippee I'm all right Jack I can wash my hands covered in blood and be fiiiiine female people.

It isn't socially just. It's misogynist, it's sexist, it's unkind, it's uncaring, it's insensitive, it's exclusionary, it's discriminatory, it's regressive.

In a few years, people will start going..... hang on a minute, we've got an issue with girls.

But #theyreonlyfemales