What's with the infantilising of women's nightwear?

I’ve looked at every piece of women’s nightwear on Asda and M&S and there is not one thing on either that I want. They are either too cutesy, with characters or slogans, floral, checked, ditsy prints, non-cotton.

I've seen nightmare to suit every taste. No idea what your point is.

Anyway, it isn’t less to wear snoopy pyjamas. It is less to feel that you can’t wear them. It I s a natural human instinct to feel warmly towards cute things, and we do as a society try and train men out of those instincts. There’s always the assumption on these threads that feminine things are somehow worse than masculine things
That’s actually a really good point @LibertyMole

I agree.
Luckily I'm firmly in the "sexy" nightwear category.
I hate pastels, cartoons and flowery stuff.

I think this is a strange thread to be in the FWR section. If people just want to talk about pyjamas and nightdress choices then surely there is a better place for it?

This board exists, primarily, for people who want to pose questions about choices; and who want to think a little more deeply or analytically about matters.

Look at the women’s running shoe section here:
www.sportsdirect.com/running/running-shoes/ladies-running-shoes

I usually buy mine from a specialist running shop at sale time or a designer outlet place.

If I want a Star Wars or super heroes top, why do I have to buy from the mens section and get a baggy T?

@Quaagars You don’t. Primark do loads of women’s Star Wars/superhero clothes.

As fo Gap, EMP, TruffleShuffle, Character etc.

@LibertyMole a school I saw recently showing off their new progressive uniform, it was still girls in short tight skirts or leggings and boys in baggy shorts and normal joggers. Overall I thought was better uniform but there was still a big divide between girls and boys. It's Flakefleet school in fleetwood I would be interested in hearing your Opinion if you ever see the news article photos

There are slogans and styles of boys’ and girls clothes which are gender stereotyped in negative ways. There are overly sexualised styles of girls’ clothing and overly aggressive styles of boys’ clothing.

I am not making any comment on them being equally bad or one being worse, just saying I have an issue with both.

The thing about the difference in skimpiness in clothes for pre pubescent children..?

My sister wears them and gets compliments all the time, especially on the Alien ones.

@LibertyMole

Just had to google Last Exit To Nowhere, as hadn't heard of before.
Would wear most of those tees!

Why on earth would we start with micro aggressions?

We should start with the macroagressions.

Anyway, it isn’t less to wear snoopy pyjamas. It is less to feel that you can’t wear them. It I s a natural human instinct to feel warmly towards cute things, and we do as a society try and train men out of those instincts. There’s always the assumption on these threads that feminine things are somehow worse than masculine things.

Nice Gerbil, I agree that we do judge other people on their clothes. I sometimes think people look ridiculous, awful etc over trivial clothes’ choices and while it isn’t my best personality trait, I’m okay with it.

Quaagars, please look at Last Exit to Nowhere. I think you will enjoy it.

OP, thanks for starting this interesting thread. I was very stressed and it has kept me occupied.

It's absolutely a feminist issue. Not the biggest or the most important. But still something that keeps women lesser than men. We can start with the micro aggressions.

Personally I wear a old vest, but you are right, little girl tops have prey on them, dear, rabbit etc. Little boy jammies have dinosaurs, lions etc. And that bleeds into women's pyjamas. I definitely don't want eyor on my pyjamas. Too passive.

The men in my work wear t-shirts with superheroes, retro stuff eg star wars all the time.
No one thinks anything of it
I think it's different for women.

I do too. Why is it different though?

For a start female designed clothes are often cut in a very different way.
Must admit, this is one of the things that pisses me off though.
If I want a Star Wars or super heroes top, why do I have to buy from the mens section and get a baggy T?
Can we not have fitted women's tops too?
I do wear superhero, Star Wars stuff all the time but I have to be content with a baggy man's t-shirt.

The men in my work wear t-shirts with superheroes, retro stuff eg star wars all the time.

No one thinks anything of it.

I think it's different for women. For a start female designed clothes are often cut in a very different way.

Also I think they are read in s different way.

A man in a t-shirt with the original star wars poster on is just saying I like star wars.

A grown woman in a hello kitty t-shirt gets a different judgement.

And it would be unusual for a man to wear a hello kitty t-shirt. I suspect it would be seen as 'pretty cool' though.

I just remembered something. There's a thing I found v funny on Facebook. They sold t-shirts. They were the bloke sort of shape.

I'm short and booby so they don't fit at all.

I got in touch and said hello your thing is brilliant! If I pay extra please can I have one with it printed on, on one from your supplier?

He said no, these are unisex.

And obviously that's up to him so fine but it was a shame.

Because they're not unisex, are they. For lots of women.

Pothole is there a sports topic or something you can ask on?

I can't help I'm not a runner sorry.

It's the one time as an adult you can get away with enjoying childish designs really. As a kid you would get Disney wallpaper, adults can't make a princess living room or go to work in fun childish clothes. So why not enjoy it at home while you can, have a bit of fun life has so many rules

The judgement is dull.

It detracts from the topic.

These things always get so defensive.

I mean who gives a fuck if some random person on the internet thinks nighties with snoopy on are crap if you're over 10. Or 25. Or 50. Or 70. Whatever.

Why does it always get so personal? And why do people care? I've had 'constructive' criticism on every aspect of my appearance for my whole life from both women and men. Some men have been kind enough to bellow their thoughts out of cars.

Getting shitty because a random on the internet says Disney nighties are pretty shit is peculiar and detracts from the conversation.

The interesting thing though, and one I've never understood. Is why 'smart' clothes are usually less comfy than relaxing clothes. Why some people seem to relate effort in appearance to respect.

At a job interview in a non customer/ client facing role, why does it matter? Why not wear what is essentially a Winnie the Pooh t-shirt to an interview? They're not hiring your for what you look or dress like so what does it matter?

I've never understood that.

Does anyone have more details about where to buy running shoes for flat feet but without pink stripes on, come April 12th? Without breaking the bank?

Please don't say google, because I really need to try shoes on. My usual port of call was Sports Direct, but they treat their staff badly, and also I always ended up with only two non-pink pairs of shoes to choose from.

If it's not a thing then why is there a difference between relaxing clothes and interview clothes?

How is that the same though when we're on a thread where people are judging people for what pyjamas they wear, whether they're deemed too childish or not?
I mean, I wouldn't rock up to an interview in my Winnie The Pooh pyjama top.
You'd leave it at home