Julie Bindel on women who self-ID as Gender Critical

So in this situation, you believe Julie is referring to women who questioned Benjamin's anti-abortion stance as bigots?

Are you saying you don't? Feel free to expound an alternative reading.

Thanks nauticant. I understand the context now.

Benjamin Boyce posted a video in which someone who identifies as a non binary femme had an abortion and was upset by being misgendered during this process. BB then posted “more regard for her pronouns than the life she had extinguished”. Some Twitter back and forth ensued, as it does, over whether BB is anti choice. I’m still not clear on that, as he’s quite opaque and seems to think he’s simply airing a provocactive view rather than actually saying he holds it. My impression tends to be that he does seem to think abortion is wrong.

I think a little less of him if that’s the case, I have to say. I’ve listened to a lot of his content and have always had the impression that he’s a reflective, thoughtful, woman supporting man, so I’m not sure how this fits.

What hasn’t changed is that I have always been aware that he’s not a gender critical feminist, so my worldview remains the same: that there are many groups of people who weigh into this topic from many angles, and I don’t agree with them all by any stretch of the imagination. This is not news.

I don’t know who JB is referring to. Is it BB?

Just to get it into the thread - the tweet is in reply to this from Kathleen Stock, which makes the meaning totally clear. OP has chosen to conceal this tweet in an attempt to misrepresent what Julie is saying.

As I'm tagged - if Benjamin thinks differently to me on some matters, including issues like abortion, that's fine with me - I didn't assume he wouldn't. Demanding people sign up to a complete set of principles, or else fail utterly, is partly why we are all in the mess we are in.

JB is being very precise about the use of the word "bigots" there - noting that some "GC" people were acting out the same sort of bigotry we see from the TRA crowd - intolerance of people with different viewpoints.

And I agree - GC people should not be acting like TRAs and attacking wrongthink.

She's not talking about "bigots" in the way TRAs use the word - projected accusations of bad motivation/hatred instead of arguing the point.

We are still waiting to hear your view!

No, it doesn’t match my experience at all.

All the people that I’ve met have their reasons for getting involved in the debate, but I’ve never met anyone and though “nah, you’re just in it to shit on people you don’t like”.

What was the context of the quote? I’m not on Twitter.

Int he spirit of a worthwhile discussion, rather than looking at Julie Bindel's tweet out of context, here's the context:

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1379844635535814656

At the heart of the discussion is people identifying Benjamin Boyce as GC or as an GC ally. It's clear from his channel that that is not how he sees himself at all. The tweet by Kathleen Stock above Julie Bindel's in informative in how people can have a nuanced position.

It's a closed question for a start. If you want to invite discussion you need to input yourself.

I think it’s interesting you chose to take this out of context. It was part of a long exchange between multiple people on Twitter.

Why did you chose to do that?

Let’s hear your views. I refuse to share my thoughts with someone who demands a response with no context nor any indication of their opinion.

Is it my experience that trans activists will take screenshots out of context and present them on an another platform in order to misrepresent the situation and create mischieve? Yes.

Do I think you will do the same with screenshots from here? Also yes.

This was in response to a woman calling out a man who said "More regard for her pronouns than the life she had extinguished".

Do you think it's bigotry to take objection to such language?

No

You spend a lot of time on these threads telling people they're feminising wrong. How about you tell us your own approach to sports, medicine, refuges, prisons, fgm and self ID. Then we can say if it's reasonable or not.

The floor is yours.

What's with the post and demand?

Do you not have thoughts of your own?

It's courteous to share them, if so, rather than demand that everyone jump to answer your questions.

It's a discussion board after all.

What do you think?