Pro-porn Childline film encouraging kids to google BDSM etc

That should say childline

yeahbut I don't know why you are saying the video doesn't tell children to watch porn. The video says "If you want to see more than straight white people getting it on, you might have to be a little more specific. There are plenty of types of porn including but not limited to softcore, hardcore, lesbian, thespian, interracial, facial, alternative, conservative, hentai, Far Cry, BDSM, NEDM, amateur, mature and swan disco. However, if none of that stuff floats your boat then fear not because if the internet has taught us anything, it's that if it exists, there is porn of it."

What is that if not suggesting to children different porn terms to google?

yeahbutnaw

I almost can't put myself through watching it. The vastly irritating man is encouraging children to Google BDSM and facials in porn. What is it you don't get? This is Childline.

The only thing children should be learning about porn is that it's illegal to watch it, and how they can avoid being pressured into watching it, and why it's dangerous.

Not 'hey, why dontcha look up some BDSM', from a man yelping out soundbites who would not look out of place on bloody Playschool.

Seriously.

Girls being raped in school to the tune of one a day. A day.

But that's not the argument that was being made

Do you have reading and comprehension issues?

I've mentioned the failure to mention trafficking in almost every post.

Again, gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women

My posts, apart from one where I quoted another poster, made no reference to women.

The video was dire. It started from the point of view that porn is fine and normal. The glossing over of desensitisation , the complete lack of any consideration of the wrong in treating other humans as masturbatory tools and the failure to even mention trafficking are disgraceful.

Again, gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women.

Several of the problems you mention are covered in the campaign. Trafficking isn't explicitly called out. If the argument made here was that it should be, then I'd agree.

But that's not the argument that was being made.

yeahbutnaw

The first thing that children/young people need to know about pornography is how dangerous it is, how demeans and humiliates women and is misogynistic to the point of no return.

How it depicts men and women in a largely male fantasy where the women are utterly subordinate. And how it attempts to normalise sexual practices that most women, and certainly children, do not want.

They also need to know that watching porn is illegal under the age of 18. And anyone encouraging them to do so is committing a crime.

They need to be shown how young men's expectations of sex are blown out of all reality by their access to porn. And that it is difficult for anyone to know whether or not the woman has been trafficked, and you are therefore watching filmed rape.

Perhaps you have seen in the news the overwhelming number of female pupils, and teachers, who have been sexually harassed, assaulted, and raped and who live in fear of a porn inspired rape culture. In school.

It is you who needs to 'wake up'.

I'm absolutely certain this has escaped your psyche, but women *are human^, you know. We are not your resource.

"Violence during consensual sex has become normalised, campaigners have warned.

It comes after more than a third of UK women under the age of 40 have experienced unwanted slapping, choking, gagging or spitting during consensual sex, research for BBC Radio 5 Live suggests."

'A man tried to choke me during sex without warning' www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50546184

"The Children of Pornhub
Why does Canada allow this company to profit off videos of exploitation and assault?"

www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/opinion/sunday/pornhub-rape-trafficking.html

"7 scandals PornHub doesn’t want you to know about
PornHub believes itself above all laws—including those against child pornography. No wonder 946k people have signed to shut it down."

"Kidnapped girl forced to perform in "verified" PornHub videos Christopher Johnson, 30, was arrested in South Florida after sex trafficking the 15-year-old on PornHub."

lulz.com/scandals-pornhub-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-10056/

TRAFFICKING- I've put it in capitals for the hard of hearing.

How on earth can anyone take that video seriously when it omitted any reference to TRAFFICKING.

"Pornhub has been sued by 40 women who say it profited from a sex-trafficking operation by a content partner."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55333403

PS: Gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women. Wake up

I'll repeat part of my first post as you clearly didn't read it. Nothing I said is limited to women.

There is no mention of trafficking or the porn industry's links to money laundering or organised crime

There was no consideration at all of the societal effect of the normalisation of treating other human beings as mere objects

I'm just chuckling at someone coming onto a feminist forum and calling women pearl clutchers.

"ONLINE PORN WEBSITES PROMOTE SEXUALLY VIOLENT VIDEOS: One in eight porn videos promoted to first-time users of the UK's leading adult sites are labelled with text describing sexually violent acts, according to a study."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56640178

You made a false claim that Childline are encouraging children to watch porn

The claim is not false. The video is wholly predicated on the view that porn is fine as long as you don't watch too much of it.

There was a very brief mention that some of it might be illegal- no mention at all of trafficking or that it would be almost impossible to tell if the "actors" had been trafficked.

There was a frankly nauseating "wink wink you are 18" comment. I took from that he knew perfectly well his viewers are not 18.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm

That worked out really well, didn't it?

Teenagers will find porn regardless of your parental controls. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have them.

But it doesn't mean you can completely ignore talking to your children about the porn that they will no doubt discover at some point.

PS: Gay teenagers exist. Not all porn includes women. Wake up.

Would you like to say 'pearl' and 'clutching' a few more times for the people at the back

Stuffing derisive labels on people doesn't help much really.

Who the hell comes on a women's rights page and does the old "you're a load of pearl clutchers, what's wrong with porn" routine?

Easiest slur in the book. When 12 year olds are watching porn and suffering with mental health issues as a result - it's time to ask serious questions about access to and prevalence of porn. It's not time to make a touchy feely video which accepts this as normal. Women who a) care about the representation/exploitation and objectification of women in porn and b) about safeguarding kids aren't pearl clutchers. Wake up.

as we are feminists here and understand that violently misogynistic porn demeans women

To be clear to yeahbutnaw I'm neither a feminist nor a pearl clutcher. Neither is a requirement to understand that porn is damaging.