''Inmates say guards have warned them that “men are coming” and to expect sexual violence.''

actually, would be better if they all declared gender fluid, imagine the authorities having to cope with all those interchanging girl and boy modes? They could always employ Eddie as a special consultant to help them distribute lippy and false tits where they are urgently needed.

^Guards said “that if we think it’s bad now, be prepared for the worst. That it’s going to be off the hook, it’s going to be jumping,” inmate Tomiekia Johnson told the Times. “They say we’re going to need a facility that’s going to be like a maternity ward. They say we’re going to have an inmate program where inmates become nannies.”

Nina McQueen, a transgender woman and inmate at Mule Creek , said she had helped prison staff identify male inmates who attempted to transfer to women’s facilities by pretending to be transgender.

“They wanted me in a confidential setting to tell them who is transgender and who is not, so they can block some of these guys from going to the women’s prison,” McQueen said. “I told him I don’t have a problem with it….We feel they’re climbing our backs.”^

www.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/hundreds-transgender-california-inmates-request-202324393.html

so how do you think women feel?

McQueen and the guards should be reported for transphobia for disbelieving the lived experience of hitherto oppressed transwomen who are only just beginning to live as their authentic selves.

I am hoping the entire male prison population declares as transgender, may be the only way out of this mess.

The most gobsmacking of all the gobsmacking things is that so many people can't even see it.

Male violence is turned into women's problem. "Humane" solutions make women into sacrificial animals (and I do mean animals, creatures who count for absolutely nothing).

And the media and politicians and so so so so many people cannot even see the pain. Because it's just women.

It would, wouldn't it.

It is very interesting which threads they swerve, if they are so confident that their view is the right side of history and they have all the facts, evidence and a winning argument they'd be all over these threads like a rash but as always radio silence.

They're cowards, they lack the courage of their convictions and they won't admit they just plain don't care about the already vulnerable and abused and traumatised women who will suffer appalling harm.

I agree & to be more specific: females of a lower socio-economic class being raped is just collateral damage. There are women as well as men who support this policy in California and they will be supporting it because getting the associated virtue signaling credentials matters more to them than protecting low-income vulnerable women of color in the prison system. They can overlook the resulting rapes & assaults because they'll be happening to women who are so remote from their own experience that they barely see them as human. They'll never be going to jail. That's something that happens to the poors so it doesn't matter to them.

Perhaps those liberal, TWAW, shouting feminists and their allies could tell us why:

1. Those black lives don't matter
2. Those women's lives don't matter

come on own up and own what you are doing to women and particularly women of colour, I dare you.

Females being raped is just collateral damage, and clearly not much of a problem to anyone.

I agree & to be more specific: females of a lower socio-economic class being raped is just collateral damage. There are women as well as men who support this policy in California and they will be supporting it because getting the associated virtue signaling credentials matters more to them than protecting low-income vulnerable women of color in the prison system. They can overlook the resulting rapes & assaults because they'll be happening to women who are so remote from their own experience that they barely see them as human. They'll never be going to jail. That's something that happens to the poors so it doesn't matter to them.

It truly is medieval, Michelle.

Every time a politician sheds crocodile tears about VAWG they need to be reminded is it policy in UK Prisons and they don't give a damn about it.

Yet back home in good old Blighty female prisoners are served up as objects to be raped and sexually abused with no means of escape and it's deemed part of a progressive agenda. Fucking hypocrites and misogynists every last one of them.

Quite.

The people making these decisions and congratulating themselves on their own progressiveness can provide themselves if female. Their bodies, their choice. No one should be enforcing the provision of the body of a non consenting female to validate their personal political agenda. It's time to face the truth of this, and stop hiding behind nonsense about it being 'humanity'. No, it's not humanity, it's medieval in its misogyny.

The more I read about this the more angry I get. Women need to get men out of power. They've shown time and again that they are incapable hateful animals, every chance they get to abuse women they take with utter glee. Force the fuckers out of power and cage man until they learn how to behave in decent society.

All the hand wringing and outrage when women are raped en masse in theatres of war, the back slapping and high fives when the Government of the day were involved in getting rape recognised as war crime. Yet back home in good old Blighty female prisoners are served up as objects to be raped and sexually abused with no means of escape and it's deemed part of a progressive agenda. Fucking hypocrites and misogynists every last one of them.

I am actually trying to do something on this with Home Office, MoJ, (Ministry of Justice) and Prison Service. (UK system)

More than happy to keep you in loop, sadly I have a little relevant experience. The powers that are allowing it will, eventually, have to stop this ....

I wish you well with this Alex2112, you have my support and I'd be happy to help if I can, I promise I can be more polite and diplomatic if required! The findings of the ongoing case against the MoJ will be very interesting and I hope will recognise this appalling state of affairs for exactly what it is.

I really, really, really don't understand how anyone can support this and not think there are any potential problems or dangers and think they're doing the right thing. Obviously I understand wanting to protect trans inmates, but you can't just ship male prisoners who suddenly claim to be trans wholesale over to women's prisons. It makes me so angry.

I am actually trying to do something on this with Home Office, MoJ, (Ministry of Justice) and Prison Service. (UK system)

Who was the MoJ Civil Servant who lost her job for writing inconvenient reports and asking inconvenient questions, iirc?

Applauds MichelleofzeResistance

The policy of allowing biological men who say they are women into women's prisons has resulted in rape.

I think what I find worst of all of this is the proof of the absolute contempt for female people.

There's no consideration or care or the faintest interest in their welfare - just anger if they dare to protest illtreatment.

There's not the faintest pretense at equality of consideration or values with that poured all over people born male. It's not even necessary to make the slightest gesture or appearance of caring, it's fully acceptable in society to just plain not give a fuck at all what happens to them. Animals get more consideration and human compassion.

Evidence of harm to females causes no shock, no rush to look at what went wrong, no questioning at all. It's not even regarded as a failure or something to be ashamed of or considered a problem. Making male born people what they choose apparently just involves female bodies getting hurt, and how dare female people want to be excused this duty? (Which is specific to their sexed biology, but we're supposed to say there's no such thing.)

And again notice the absolute lack of any sense of sisterhood or the faintest, remotest glimmer of interest in women's rights, women's wellbeing, women's issues, by those born male who insist entry to women's spaces by their being women. My God does it say a lot.

The policy of allowing biological men who say they are women into women's prisons has resulted in rape.

Which shows, it's considered something that it's acceptable to happen to women in the meeting of the so very important needs of transwomen.

Females being raped is just collateral damage, and clearly not much of a problem to anyone.

Except the raped female. #onlyfemales

More than happy to keep you in loop, sadly I have a little relevant experience. The powers that are allowing it will, eventually, have to stop this ....

i share your anger @yourhairiswinterfire.

Any right minded human being would have serious issues thinking that ANY civil society would allow this MAN to have access to female only prisons. The man should be in isolation, NOT dressing as a woman and free to rape female inmates, it is beyond logical belief?

And we get called "bigots" , "Terfs" and "transphobes " for suggesting this trans ideology is wrong.

ARGHHHH ...

I've just fallen across this abstract (first one, left hand side) while searching for something else and it reports that 1 in 4 US women may experience an early life sexual trauma:

agsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jgs.16431

Given the disproportionate numbers of incarcerated women who have experienced abuse and trauma I thought this is additional information about the general vulnerability of women in the US.

those who shout loudest get the publicity of MSM like BBC.

and BOOM they all got a wake up call in EU referendum, and Dec 2019 general election, when the silent majority used their right to democracy to ensure that common sense was respected.

I do believe that the tide has turned politically that electorate cannot be ignored.

In this matter trans ideology is on the wrong side of common sense and democracy, The issue is rising in the political key issues stakes.

Labour keep getting fingers burned when setting policies that support Self ID etc, the Lib Dems, for what its worth, totally lost support by stating "trans women" are "women" in leadership elections.

The loud voices will not prevail.

Common sense will prevail, and these "trans women" will have to accept we all have equal rights, and they must respect women's basic rights.