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"They can request another space"

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BlackAlys · 04/04/2021 15:14

Still reeling after an inset day talk on Diversity and Inclusion. The group delivering the 2.5 hour long class showed us a video of a trans girl, primary age, happily playing with friends and their parents saying how wonderful it all was.

This very feminine looking transgirl has, in my Headteacher's mind, become the poster child who represents all children who are transitioning and he has now proclaimed a push for all trans pupils to be allowed to toilet, change, swim, play with wherever they are comfortable.

Before now, our teenage trans pupils have been offered an individual changing area/toilet cubicle for their modesty and dignity. It's worked. We don't have trans girls...yet.

I run residential trips tied to my subject area and asked about the sleeping arrangements, should the situation arise. The Headteacher now feels that a transgirl should be able to share dormitories and changing areas with girls and trans is to share with the boys.

I pointed out that our pupils with strong religious faiths will not be able to/wouldn't want to; also that the vulnerable girls with haunted pasts won't want to; I pointed out that, bottom line, we have sex segregation for a very good reason and the very basic right of dignity and privacy should be respected. I asked him how that will be navigated and he replied that if a girl objects, then she can sleep/be catered for elsewhere.

It's gutted me. Girls, move out if you don't like it.

I pointed out that Sex is a protected characteristic and he shrugged and said that we have to evolve with how society is changing.

I asked him how his daughter would feel about his desire to throw her rights to privacy away, and he told me she'd be fine with it.

He's seen had heated the story of the little transgirl and he is utterly captured.

I know my card is now marked and am wondering how I'll be treated upon my return.

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TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 04/04/2021 16:58

Complete dereliction of his safeguarding duty.

Who is your DSL (hope it’s not him!!), and your safeguarding link Governor? Once you’ve armed yourself with the resources pp have provided, you should approach them.

RabbitOfCaerbannog · 04/04/2021 16:56

The updated Department for Education guidance...

www.gov.uk/guidance/plan-your-relationships-sex-and-health-curriculum#using-external-agencies

Useful explainer from TT...

www.transgendertrend.com/department-for-education-rse-guidance-schools/

"They can request another space"
R0wantrees · 04/04/2021 16:50

This very feminine looking transgirl has, in my Headteacher's mind, become the poster child who represents all children who are transitioning and he has now proclaimed a push for all trans pupils to be allowed to toilet, change, swim, play with wherever they are comfortable... he is utterly captured

I would be concerned by a male colleague if they demonstrated such an apparent emotion-led response to a particular child especially if he then waved away the specific responsibilities he has to Safeguard all children his care.

R0wantrees · 04/04/2021 16:34

I pointed out that our pupils with strong religious faiths will not be able to/wouldn't want to; also that the vulnerable girls with haunted pasts won't want to; I pointed out that, bottom line, we have sex segregation for a very good reason and the very basic right of dignity and privacy should be respected. I asked him how that will be navigated and he replied that if a girl objects, then she can sleep/be catered for elsewhere.

It's gutted me. Girls, move out if you don't like it.

I pointed out that Sex is a protected characteristic and he shrugged and said that we have to evolve with how society is changing.

As well contacting Safe Schools Alliance, do have a look at the resources on Transgender Trend website specifically for schools.

The Head and Governors should be aware of their statutory responsibilities.

The Department of Education published specific guidance last autumn concerning external groups promoting gender ideology. It seems likely the Head is unaware of it and/or in breach of it.

www.transgendertrend.com/schools-resources/

IDontOnlyLikeJazzFunk · 04/04/2021 16:23

This is what a teacher in my dds school said would have to happen but as yet they have only had one transitioner in the school (ftm).

I’m keeping a very close eye on the situation.

Steptoeshorse1965 · 04/04/2021 16:23

Think it utterly appalling how the issues around this and other sexual matters are pushed at those who have the least ability to understand them, process them, and decide accordingly. Primary age kids FFS, what do they know at that age, and what can they decide upon. Awful.

Zinco · 04/04/2021 16:20

It's gutted me. Girls, move out if you don't like it.

But then if they all decided to, they would have their own space exclusively for the female sex. Now that may not happen in practice... let's say that half of them did, then you end up with girls section and a "real girls" section. I wonder how long it takes before the trans girls start demanding to be let in to the real girls section?

HerewardTheWoke · 04/04/2021 16:06

This is shit but do you have the option to decline to run residentials? I think that's what I would do if faced with this policy. I would say that I didn't have confidence that I could safeguard pupils under this policy, and that I was not prepared to take the potential risk of personal liability for pupils coming to harm as a result.

I know this means kids may miss out on good opportunities but it is your professional responsibility to stand up for safeguarding.

OhHolyJesus · 04/04/2021 16:02

I'm not sure you shouldn't be escalating this to the local education authority or OFSTED. The HT clearly hasn't got a grip on U.K. law and how that applies to children in the school he is responsible for.

His stance will result in discrimination against female pupils on protected characteristics of sex and religion. You have explained it all very clearly and he still doesn't get it. If it wasn't such a dangerous POV it would be mildly amusing that he has achieved such a level in education!

If you can report anonymously I would go straight to OFSTED.

Biscuitsanddoombar · 04/04/2021 15:26

There’s definitely been similar threads OP. Including a poster who tackled it very successfully with a previously full on twaw head teacher

Do a search on schools and a lot of helpful tnings will come up :)

BlackAlys · 04/04/2021 15:25

Thank you. I will look through this.

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FionnulaTheCooler · 04/04/2021 15:22

Safe Schools Alliance has some good resources on the importance of providing single sex facilities and safeguarding.

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/

BlackAlys · 04/04/2021 15:21

More than 1 typo - sorry!

Please help me figure out how to tackle this with my Headteacher.

As yet, we don't have unisex toilets - they're all open with doors floor to ceiling, with the sinks visible to staff on duty, I know he's thinking of making them Unisex, despite having the frightening statistics of unwanted sexually attention and, even rape and assault in schools.

My 3 daughters hate heir school unisex toilets - eldest uses a mooncup and feels embarrassed / mortified about anyone seeing
Blood on her hands so she takes wipes and bottles of water to the toilet cubicle with her.

My middle daughter is embarrassed about the rustle of sanitary pads wrappers - she doesn't know if a boy is in the opposite cubicle or
Not.

My Headteacher is about to make some huge decisions for the sake
Of including a minority, to the expense of many. He has parental support (he reckons).

He is totally blinded.

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BlackAlys · 04/04/2021 15:15

*sprry - typo

Trans boys should be allowed to share with the boys

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