Anyone fancy co-parenting with LOJ?

God, sci-fi is great.

From that paper:

Legally, under the Equality Act (2010) transgender people are afforded explicit protection from both direct and indirect forms of discrimination through the characterisation of ‘gender reassignment’ as a protected characteristic. As such, M2F transgender women cannot be subjected to discrimination on the basis of this characteristic. Subsequently, if UTx becomes an established treatment option for women with AUFI, UK and EU legislation would make it legally impermissible to refuse to perform UTx in transgender women solely because of their gender identity.

Wuh?!

The fact is everyone knows about the reality of sex and has the ability to recognise it. That professional activists such as O.J also know, but because of their public profile have to also pretend not to know, reveals how much cognitive dissonance there is in having to maintain the politically correct position. One wrong step in any direction is suicide.

This is what happens when the necessity for the maintenance of consistency with one's tribe, becomes more important than truth, honesty and integrity.

Thing is - even if womb transplants could be a thing for tw (ignoring them not having a space for it to go or the correct plumbing and the fact that a womb still doesn't give you an ova and the moral implications of doing this experiment on a human fetus) ... there's still a difference between bio women born with wombs (who have their wombs taken from their corpses [hopefully corpses and not snatched from living women]) and the tw who require the transplant aren't there? There's still a class of people born with wombs and a class of people born without, a class that does the donating and a class that receives the donation.

So even with womb transplants tw will still not be the same as w.

So what an utterly pointless thing to say.

What “transplant experts”? It literally hasn’t been done yet. If these “experts” were literally so, there’d be queues round the block.
Why do you think there aren’t?

Tw are not infertile, unless they had gender reassignment surgery.

"your grasp of the physical reality of transplants and the process of surrogacy is so poor you think it would be possible."

Well, me and the gynaecologists and transplant experts who wrote this paper:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6492192/

You’re clearly just looking for a reaction. What a hoot you are.
Yes. Every single thread, with tedious regularity.

You’re clearly just looking for a reaction. What a hoot you are.

Of course, a large gamete from a female will still be required.

I’m infertile because my female biology has malfunctioned not because I’m a man you absolute bellend

sperm banks full of donations from handsome, intelligent Vikings

This is like something I'd expect to read on an Aryan Nations website, not FWR.

I get that Owen Jones can be a bit of a prick, but have you all lost your minds?

Hopefully womb transplants for trans women will be a thing soon, cos it'll be so much fun watching bigots imploding when a trans woman offers to be a surrogate for a gay couple.

“I’m the special boy, mummy? Aren’t I? I’m the best boy?”

Because he’s MASSIVELY IMPORTANT.

At least in his own mind.

Most people think he’s a dick because he’s a dick.

OJ aside, I am not sure why any woman would actively choose to coparent with someone they are not in a relationship in. Why add that extra layer of stress/ admin/ potential for conflict/ disagreement? What if the co parent becomes an arse and argues with you that over every tiny thing? Why out your self through that when it is not necessary. Especially a lesbian couple where you have two parents.
You can pay for babysitting if “an extra pair of hands” appeals, you’ve got grandparents and maybe uncles, aunts and cousins already. You can get sperm on the internet. What would the male co parent bring to the table?

I'm pretty sure I'd have reacted to 'hunting for broody lesbian couples' regardless of which entitled misogynist had said it. My objection to it had nothing to do with trans rights, and the homophobia in this case is his - gay men coparenting who are respectful of women are fine.

Anybody disagreeing with me has a burning hatred towards me...

It must be exhausting being him.

imagine the tantrums raising a mini LOJ?

The kid may not be any better either

This is a woman telling Owen that the joke he made was disrespectful and this is how he reacts.

A lesbian couple are terra nullius. It's grotesque. I can't word it any better than has been done in this thread, but I know what I'm seeing, even if I can't describe it.

Owen deploying his usual 'if all else fails call'em a bigot' tactic there.

The whole 'so are you saying that infertile women are not women then' thing is such a ridiculous strawman argument. And it's really offensive to appropriate the uniquely female experiences of women who are infertile, for whatever reason (there are many), and equate them with having a male reproductive system.

But then, it seems like 'offensiveness' only goes one way as well. I mean, like a tweet saying 'only women have cervixes' and you need to be sacked, cancelled, sent of for re-education because its so offensive to trans people. Call an adult human with a penis and testicles 'he' and OMG how could you be so awful, you need to start listening and learning and check your 'cis' priviledge.

But when someone like OJ says something that women find offensive then of course women are not allowed to voice that. OJ is never going to say 'sorry, I made a joke that was offensive' he is not going to 'listen and learn'. He just shouts 'homophobic, transphobic, bigot lalalalalala!'

Because he is a man and we know that it's men who get to decide what a woman is, and what women are and aren't allowed to find offensive.

Well, he clearly knows what a woman is when he wants their body. I suggest he asks @glinner to introduce him to some lovely lesbians.