Anyone fancy co-parenting with LOJ?

Sex with vagina-having men could be the highroad to parenthood for homosexual males. A road, in fact, paved with good intentions.

Just find the kind of gay man who was born with a uterus and vagina and you don’t need a surrogate, you don’t need a “broody lesbian couple”, you don’t need any help from anyone else at all! Just some good old fashioned gay PIV sex, and job done. Barring actual fertility issues, of course.

Why are OJ and other high profile gay men not considering this route over and above any other, if they really believe TMAM?

Could it possibly be because their sexual orientation is exclusively towards other males, after all? Could it possibly be that despite what Stonewall says and despite what they themselves profess to believe, they’re not “homogenderal” after all, but homosexual?

Could there possibly be a gigantic whiff of the most monstrous hypocrisy going on here, especially from those who believe lesbians are “transphobic” if they refuse to countenance “girldick”?

Or are they really just that stupid?

As Gibbons said, you need to be pretty sharp to tell a fundamental lie consistently.

That’s Jedward... the daft twins. Who are you getting them mixed up with?

disappointed with Jedward, thought they were a bit more high brow than that

Taken from Owen Jones' patreon.

The corporate media has failed us. It's time to build something new.I'm launching a new video channel, including a weekly Sunday show with incredible guests, as well as regular mini documentaries, interviews and vlogs.

This will be a channel which challenges the powerful, confronts injustice, fights the far right, and looks for alternatives. We'll also debate the other side - and have a laugh.

But I need to hire an incredible team - videographers, editors and producers - all on a union wage - to make this happen. Without your support, we can't do this.

This will be your channel: we want you involved every step of the way.If you want to challenge the right-wing grip on our media and give a platform to incredible voices and ideas, please give your support!

A rather inspiring call-to-arms.

There was a time in my life when I would have subscribed to his channel immediately (look, he's older than me- I admired him!), but even then I think an appearance by Jedward would have given me pause. Incredible voices? They can't seem to handle appearing on the Big Fat Quiz of the Year.

Hopefully womb transplants for trans women will be a thing soon, cos it'll be so much fun watching bigots imploding when a trans woman offers to be a surrogate for a gay couple

In an ideal world womb transplants would be banned- for all women and trans women. The infertility industry is vile. It's a great pity in vitro fertilisation was ever permitted.

Actually, there aren’t enough 🤣🤣 in the world for that post.

Thank you, Shizuku, you absolute gem!

Jedward?

If they're busy, maybe The Cheeky Girls could discuss Corbyn's comeback tour?

Nope, Tinsel. They're so not British that they've represented Ireland twice at Eurovision.

I am reminded of the time I read about the world's first test tube baby and thought she had literally been grown in a test tube.

If anyone is considering co-parenting with Owen Jones, I beg you to consider this set of tweets from yesterday.

Jedward! All because they abused Rosie Duffield the other night, suddenly their opinion on the Labour party is presumed to be of value.

Hopefully womb transplants for trans women will be a thing soon, cos it'll be so much fun watching bigots imploding when a trans woman offers to be a surrogate for a gay couple

Never mind the actual baby though eh?

So its probably already been said but some of the issues that arise if a womb transplant could in fact happen,
Shit loads of drugs to prevent the body rejecting it which would pass to the baby.
The womb itself having to be removed after a pregnancy whether successful or not.
A caesarian section every single time because of course.
No way yet of faking a placenta, you know the bit that's actually needed probably more than the womb.
Humans have only just started looking at issues arising from adoption and surrogacy in the child, by the time this might happen I suspect even surrogacy will be verboten.
Some actual wombs to transplant, theres a huge waiting list for the usual transplants why would this be sent through when life saving transplants aren't done for lack of donors among other reasons.
If it came to pass then it would need to be younger women who gave up a womb, will they need to have had children already to prove theirs works and to ensure they have a child? Will it only be unused wombs? Oh the questions.

Shizuku did you really just try and use an article about a woman receiving a womb transplant as evidence that it will soon be possible to implant an entire reproductive system in a transwoman?

It's already been done with women who don't happen to be trans
Sweet Jesus
Biological women (who by virtue of this, have the entire internal plumbing already in place). Not biological males.
If you can't see any difference there you're really not fit to do the sort of arguing on these threads that seems to entertain you so much.
Which probably explains why nobody bothers to listen to you, and makes me doubt your motives.

the logic made surrogacy look like something out of Gilead when applied. yes, indeed. Funny, that.

Hopefully womb transplants for trans women will be a thing soon

Not content with experimenting on kids, TRAs want to experiment on the unborn

A family member and her wife did this with a gay friend. It may or may not stun you to learn that the lesbian couple do the lion’s share of absolutely everything, a few years down the line.

Most arrangements of this nature are set up with long term friends. Does the dad-to-be not have any suitable uterus-possessing friends to ask?

Women who don't happen to be trans' so that would be.... Males

i think that they might actually mean women/females. Confusing isn't it.

Oh yes, sorry, I was getting my males and females mixed up, I was so at 'women who don't happen to be trans'!

Don't you see the hypocrisy?

"Don't happen to be trans...." that's not an administrative accident. It is a totally different proposition to insert a uterus into a male body than it is to transplant one from one woman to another.