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Anyone fancy co-parenting with LOJ?

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AdHominemNonSequitur · 03/04/2021 17:56

Owen Jones wants a baby, and would like a lesbian couple to impregnate. Any takers on mumsnet? He could be quite a catch for someone looking for a sperm donor and a co-parent to raise a well balanced child.
He got a bit of flack, so is doubling down on the the "anti-trans cult" and calling everyone homophobic.

Anyone fancy co-parenting with LOJ?
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Erkrie · 05/04/2021 21:24

It's more than clear he doesn't believe a word of it.

NiceGerbil · 05/04/2021 21:18

And the whole point is it doesn't make sense. That doesn't matter

The fact that language linking women and reproduction has been changed in many places, that feminist marches are told not to be 'gynocentric' as it is exclusionary, all the menstruators language etc

And that a male is a lesbian if they say so.

He doesn't believe a fucking word of it. It's just about being an absolute sod to women.

People are reading though. Gay men and lesbians answering saying WTF. It doesn't go unnoticed.

NiceGerbil · 05/04/2021 21:14

He being transphobic by connecting lesbian with female homosexual and female biology.

He's being a lesbophobic misogynist when he jokes about 'hunting' (creepy stalker overtones) 'broody' lesbians.

Because women get broody and wasn't babies don't they. And are so desperate they will accept any old spunk from any old bloke who hunts them down.

It's just grim.

He is a gay MRA and that's long and short of it.

Erkrie · 05/04/2021 20:12

I really don't understand why he can't see that he's being "transphobic" by not thinking he could have a relationship with a transman, and have a baby.

Well that would be the obvious solution wouldnt it. If he wants children then he should look for relationship with a man who can give birth.

ThePurpleHat · 05/04/2021 19:33

I really don't understand why he can't see that he's being "transphobic" by not thinking he could have a relationship with a transman, and have a baby.

LacyEdge · 05/04/2021 19:25

“The Katie Hopkins of the left” is exactly it. Clickbaity brattishness and charmless belligerence. It’s a winning combo for today’s media firebrand.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/04/2021 19:15

Really Ash? Because as a GC feminist aware of this issue for years, I have never thought that "being respectful and inclusive of trans people erases my own womanhood". However "inclusive" I am of males, it has no bearing on the fact of either my sex or theirs.

Sophoclesthefox · 05/04/2021 19:10

[quote toffeebutterpopcorn]Link for anyone who missed it. It was so lovely to read a store that was all about the baby finding a loving home (and not all about the adults demanding that they must have baby and using their wallets to transact with a surrogate).

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9437257/Newborn-adopted-gay-couple-abandoned-NYC-subway-station-grown-up.html[/quote]
That’s lovely 🥰 like a same-sex “This Is Us”.

Defaultname · 05/04/2021 18:57

@toffeebutterpopcorn

Not Ash then (I don’t know who that person is beyond they seem rather irritation and look like they have a false hand in their profile pic)
Part of the digitization process.
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 05/04/2021 18:49

@toffeebutterpopcorn

Not Ash then (I don’t know who that person is beyond they seem rather irritation and look like they have a false hand in their profile pic)
I really felt I should clarify 😀
toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/04/2021 18:48

Not Ash then (I don’t know who that person is beyond they seem rather irritation and look like they have a false hand in their profile pic)

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 05/04/2021 18:47

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

Thats a beautiful story
The gay couple adopting the baby i meant
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 05/04/2021 18:44

Thats a beautiful story

Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 05/04/2021 18:43

This from Ash Sarkar - now I know that she gets a lot of horrible abuse on Twitter, but it's not GC feminists calling you a man is it Ash?

Honestly the bullshitometer is off the scale.

Anyone fancy co-parenting with LOJ?
HermitsLife · 05/04/2021 18:10

What a heartwarming story, they seem like such a sweet family

toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/04/2021 18:02

Link for anyone who missed it. It was so lovely to read a store that was all about the baby finding a loving home (and not all about the adults demanding that they must have baby and using their wallets to transact with a surrogate).

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9437257/Newborn-adopted-gay-couple-abandoned-NYC-subway-station-grown-up.html

SunsetBeetch · 05/04/2021 17:59

@toffeebutterpopcorn

Why not adopt? That is if you pass the vetting.

There’s a book that’s been promoted a lot this week - about a man who found an abandoned newborn in a subway station and ended up adopting him (with his male partner, now his husband). It’s a true story. Very sweet.

Oh I saw that, it was lovely.
toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/04/2021 17:53

Why not adopt? That is if you pass the vetting.

There’s a book that’s been promoted a lot this week - about a man who found an abandoned newborn in a subway station and ended up adopting him (with his male partner, now his husband). It’s a true story. Very sweet.

HermitsLife · 05/04/2021 17:45

@Shizuku

Hopefully womb transplants for trans women will be a thing soon, cos it'll be so much fun watching bigots imploding when a trans woman offers to be a surrogate for a gay couple.
I love it when you show yourself @Shizuku so transparent.
Defaultname · 05/04/2021 17:36

As Paul W.Anka put it:

[Paul:]
Havin' my baby
What a lovely way of sayin'
How much you love me
Havin' my baby
What a lovely way of sayin'
What you're thinkin' of me
I can see it, face is glowin'
I can see in your eyes
I'm happy you know it

[Both:]
That you're havin' my baby

[Paul:]
You're the transwoman I love
And I love what it's doin' to ya

Tibtom · 05/04/2021 17:35

Why would anyone implode at that?

Concern for the baby being exposed to all those medicines and artificial hormones during its development in order to satisfy an ideology?

Mugginyouleftrightandcentre · 05/04/2021 17:34

It's bullshit anyway.

Pretty much all surrogates are women who have previously had successful, low risk pregnancies. If you are looking for a surrogate, you are going to be looking for a woman who has a higher chance of carrying a baby to term.

Women who have had womb transplants successfully have had the womb removed along with the baby, it's a one shot thing I think. If you are a transwoman who is going to go through that process to get pregnant, then it's unlikely you are going to use your one shot to be a surrogate for someone else. And if you are someone looking for a surrogate, and have the pick of lots of biological females who have already had healthy pregnancies, then it's highly unlikely you are going to pick the male with a womb transplant where the risk of failure is huge, isn't it?

And all of that is not even accounting for the fact that womb transplants in males is currently in the realms of science fiction anyway, so I dont even know why I bothered typing all that out anyway!

toffeebutterpopcorn · 05/04/2021 17:28

And why would they necessarily want to hand the baby over to a gay (I assume male) couple? Are women - by any definition - merely breeding stock for men?

SunsetBeetch · 05/04/2021 17:06

@Shizuku

Hopefully womb transplants for trans women will be a thing soon, cos it'll be so much fun watching bigots imploding when a trans woman offers to be a surrogate for a gay couple.
Why would anyone implode at that?
Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 05/04/2021 16:15

@Floisme

I see Boodleoops was singled out by OJ at one point and now I can't find her on Twitter. Does anyone know what happened and, more importantly, if she's ok?
Apparently she's deregged for a bit after a Twitter pile on.