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Stop mixing up sex and gender GPs told

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flyingbuttress43 · 03/04/2021 14:34

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/02/doctors-must-stop-mixing-sex-gender-patients-undergoing-wrong/

Doctors have been told to stop mixing up sex and gender because it can end up with people getting the wrong treatment.

Senior medical researchers led by the University of St Andrews said there was clear evidence that biological sex and gender were both powerful risk factors for "virtually every disease and affect every organ."

The article is behind a pay wall, so here are some salient points...

Sex differences in drug metabolism were well recognised;
Gender significantly affected how a person engaged with treatment;
One GP, commenting on the article on the BMJ website said she spent hours a week ensuring the right people were called for cervical smears;
NHS systems do not allow for sex and gender to be recorded separately;
Sex and gender are not synonymous.

"Dr Margaret McCartney of the School of Medicine at St Andrews, said: "There are many instances of sex and gender being confused by the research community and society more broadly. Unless we identify and count categories correctly, we will end up with errors which serves all populations poorly."

All so obvious to us on Feminism Chat, but good to see push back
on this sex/gender mixup from the research community.

OP posts:
lunar1 · 03/04/2021 15:06

I can't believe any doctors have to be told this. In my line of work I absolutely have to refer to biological sex as it makes a massive difference. I have some transgender clients at present and will use whatever pronouns requested of me, but make it very clear at consultation that sex and gender will be treated separately. My clients haven't had any problems with the differentiation.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 03/04/2021 15:03

Though obviously recognising that these are completely separate categories is good (assuming they actually mean gender identity rather than gender, which in my view is not chosen, but imposed and is sex specific)

JM10 · 03/04/2021 15:02

I develop digital forms in my NHS trust and I always ensure the form asks sex not gender and make sure people understand that is because the risk factors for different things change based of your biological sex. Our systems do record sex at birth and current gender, but I don't know that it is that clear when you are viewing records really.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 03/04/2021 15:02

My worry is that the words woman and man would be deemed appropriate for the gender category, with female/male for the sex category. This would consolidate the appropriation of the word woman to mean feelings/stereotypes, losing the specific words we need to describe sex as it relates to humans.

SusannaMorvern · 03/04/2021 14:55

Just had to sign a vaccination consent form. It asks for your gender, no mention of sex.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 03/04/2021 14:54

@Outwithreason

Why can't the NHS have a field for sex and a field for gender? Those who wish to record their gender could then request that information be added?
I'm not R0wantrees but I have a vague memory of a thread and this article about the NHS and the classifiers of sex and gender (it's a 2-parter):

medium.com/@anneharperwright/sex-gender-the-nhs-1e8f4e6363a6

medium.com/@anneharperwright/sex-gender-the-nhs-bb86b0c3ebb

insancerre · 03/04/2021 14:51

What hope is there for the rest of the population when even the medical experts don’t know the difference between sex and gender

crumpet · 03/04/2021 14:50

It is just SO bloody obvious.

BoeotianNightmare · 03/04/2021 14:50

Incredible this has to be said but it's good it has been..

Outwithreason · 03/04/2021 14:49

Why can't the NHS have a field for sex and a field for gender? Those who wish to record their gender could then request that information be added?

Zimniy · 03/04/2021 14:48

Gosh! How amazing! Sex is important - who would have thought?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 03/04/2021 14:45

"Dr Margaret McCartney of the School of Medicine at St Andrews, said: "There are many instances of sex and gender being confused by the research community and society more broadly. Unless we identify and count categories correctly, we will end up with errors which serves all populations poorly."

Margaret McCartney and Susan Bewley are notable for being woman-focused advocates of evidence-based medicine.

terryleather · 03/04/2021 14:45

Well said Dr. McCartney, at last some fucking adults in the room.

yourhairiswinterfire · 03/04/2021 14:40

I'm appalled that doctors actually need to be told this. It's common bloody sense 😶

SunsetBeetch · 03/04/2021 14:36

Quite. Who woulda thunk it, eh? Only us and anyone else who hasn't abandoned common sense in a quest to "be kind".

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