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CIS woman in survey

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Fembot123 · 02/04/2021 10:46

Hi all perhaps you can help me here, I’ve been sent a survey about the inclusion of transgender and non binary players into u18’s rugby, I wanted to fill it in but they ask whether you are a Cis Woman, Cis Man, Transgender or Non Binary and no option of just selecting woman. I want to do the survey as I think it’s important but I don’t want to select CIS anything as I hate the term, shall I just click ‘Other’??

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jellyfrizz · 02/04/2021 17:16

@BillMasen

I understand the objection to cis, but if they just called the category woman or female, trans women would likely use it as “they are women”. This messes up what they’re trying to find out. I see why they’ve done it
What ARE they trying to find out? I put other and then I have no gender identity. I’m not sure what useful info they will gain from that.
CuriousaboutSamphire · 02/04/2021 17:01

@BillMasen

I understand the objection to cis, but if they just called the category woman or female, trans women would likely use it as “they are women”. This messes up what they’re trying to find out. I see why they’ve done it
It's that we are fighting against. As the ONS found out, it is not good enough, it is a lie and will not go unchallenged.

Not giving that inch anymore!

MagpiePi · 02/04/2021 16:56

I ticked cis but only because I didn't think to put other - woman/no gender, but I did say in the comments section at the end of the survey that the term 'cis' is offensive.

BillMasen · 02/04/2021 16:44

I understand the objection to cis, but if they just called the category woman or female, trans women would likely use it as “they are women”. This messes up what they’re trying to find out. I see why they’ve done it

littlbrowndog · 02/04/2021 16:40

I did other but filled the other box to say woman and to stop being so exclusive to women and girls

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CheeseAndHackers · 02/04/2021 16:18

I used the "other" box, wrote woman and put there was no need for the additional label of cis. I am not a sub-category of woman FFS.

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Fembot123 · 02/04/2021 16:09

@CuriousaboutSamphire

The Other box takes quite a lot of text. I threw quite a rant at it 😃
Hi Curious ☺️ I did too, hope it gives them a wake up. I was surprised they’d use that stupid term in the first place.
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CuriousaboutSamphire · 02/04/2021 15:31

The Other box takes quite a lot of text. I threw quite a rant at it 😃

Babdoc · 02/04/2021 15:22

Sounds like they are already captured, if they are using offensive terms like cis.
The logical and science based way to word the question is Sex: male/female

If they want to establish if respondents are transgender, they could ask a separate question about it, eg:
Do you have a “gender identity” Yes/no
If yes, does it differ from your sex. Yes/no.

That way, the vast majority of people simply answer the question on physical sex, and skip the next bit. And nobody will be offended or forced to engage with the creed of gender ideology if they are non believers.

Erkrie · 02/04/2021 15:13

I'd just tick Cis

You do that then. I wouldn't be, as I'm not cis.

jellyfrizz · 02/04/2021 13:14

@littlbrowndog

And I am not an other

Woman does fine for me

There is no woman option littlebrowndog. It's Cis Woman, Cis Man, Transgender, Non Binary or Other.
ListeningQuietly · 02/04/2021 12:39

other
Female.

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Linearpark · 02/04/2021 12:34

Where do Ifind the survey please?

littlbrowndog · 02/04/2021 12:30

And I am not an other

Woman does fine for me

littlbrowndog · 02/04/2021 12:29

What’s with the cis stuff.

It’s just crap and fake

Bonkers

TwoBreakingIntoOne · 02/04/2021 12:24

I wouldn't tick cis. I'm not having any ideology forced onto me

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Fembot123 · 02/04/2021 12:22

I’m glad to see so many people also objected to the term to the RFU.

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sunshinesupermum · 02/04/2021 12:14

I wouldn't tick Cis as I hate the term. Other would be my preference.

corlan · 02/04/2021 12:07

Your eyes are going to roll out of your head skyliner - I ticked 'other' and emailed the RFU to complain about their use of such an offensive term in a questionnaire.

PotholeHellhole · 02/04/2021 11:59

@Skyliner001

I'd just tick Cis 🙄
Well, naturally you would. Confused

As you have said elsewhere, you do have a gender identity and that gender identity is congruent with your sex. So you're a member of the group about which the cis tickbox aims to capture data.

It doesn't really move the discussion on regarding which of the available boxes those of us without a gender identity should tick.

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Fembot123 · 02/04/2021 11:56

I don’t identify as Cis so I’ve ticked other but explained why in the text box underneath

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jellyfrizz · 02/04/2021 11:55

@Skyliner001

I'd just tick Cis 🙄
If you identify as cis then that would be the correct answer.
Waitwhat23 · 02/04/2021 11:04

As I find the use of cis offensive (as do many other women), I ticked Other and explained why. From what I remember, there doesn't seem to be a word limit.