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Biological sex is apparently - ambiguous.

58 replies

andyoldlabour · 01/04/2021 18:39

Yes, you read that correctly. How anyone can make a statement like that is beyond me. But the person in the following video states it quite confidently.
Words fail me.

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Aroundtheworldin80moves · 01/04/2021 19:01

If only you could do a DNA test to find out these things...

R0wantrees · 01/04/2021 18:59

transcript
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Eliana Turan "First I would like to quote from the medical literature regarding the term 'biologically male' in reference to transgender women is wrong. Biological sex is an ambiguous word that has no scale and no meaning besides that which is related to some sex characteristics, primarily the outward appearance of one's
reproductive organs when their sex is assigned at birth. It says nothing about our sense of self nor our holistic physical characteristics throughout the course of our lifetimes. Most frequently the term is used in a transphobic and derogatory manner to undermine the legitimacy of trans women while relying on a pseudo-scientific facade. So I'd please ask everyone on the show and all Clevelanders and Ohioans to please refrain from using derogatory language and hate speech okay? I just wanted to
set the set the ground rules here"

Hmm

I've heard other TRAs (Joanna Harper?) use a very similar tactic in interviews about women's sports attempting to prevent women from having the language to describe sex based differences.

For those who have capitulated or colluded with the denial that men are adult human males it was always inevitable that TRAs would demand denial of all sex specific words.

ListeningQuietly · 01/04/2021 18:58

I just re watched that video.
A lot of sniffing going on Hmm

Scepticaltank · 01/04/2021 18:49

That is clearly a biological voice.

MichelleofzeResistance · 01/04/2021 18:49

Well that's certainly an opinion.

But unfortunately eppur si muove.

OhHolyJesus · 01/04/2021 18:46

This person's voice indicates quite clearly what sex they were observed at birth.

What this person says indicates how much of a grip on reality they currently hold.

ListeningQuietly · 01/04/2021 18:45

Y chromosomes are not "ambiguous"
X chromosomes are not "ambiguous"
nobody is "assigned" at birth as the Chromosomes (either the common layouts or the uncommon ones) were set at conception.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 01/04/2021 18:45

Or amphibious maybe? Don't tell anyone some frogs can change sex or it'll be clownfish all over again.

Haven't watched the video.