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Rugby - RFU seeking feedback on its transgender policy

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Biscuitsanddoombar · 30/03/2021 20:17

Will go on its website on Wednesday to get public feedback

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BuffysBigSister · 30/03/2021 21:02

@BlackAlys

God, as a fairly hard-core Welsh rugby supporter (local, regional and National fan), I wince at the hits that our male and female players give and take during a game.

It's sheer madness to allow a biological male to play with female rugby players. Madness.

In an era where rugby players are being vocal about the risks of contact sport (head injuries, early dementia etc), it's utter madness that the biological lines are being blurrred for the sake of 'inclusion'.

Absolutely this. All the concern we are rightly starting to see about head injuries and the risk of early dementia in rugby and football - why is there not an immediate connection to the risk of males in women's sports? I just don't get it.
BettyFilous · 30/03/2021 21:00

In an era where rugby players are being vocal about the risks of contact sport (head injuries, early dementia etc), it's utter madness that the biological lines are being blurrred for the sake of 'inclusion'

It is unconscionable. I have zero respect for the RFU. I hope the women who will inevitably be injured take them to the cleaners. If the game is sued out of existence it will be entirely of the RFU’s own doing. The tragedy will be the women’s lives ruined in the process. I cannot convey the depth of my contempt for the RFU in words. Seriously.

corlan · 30/03/2021 21:00

As well as the danger of injury to women from playing rugby with men, there's the fact that a mediocre male rugby player can take a woman's place on a team due to his biological advantages.
What's the point of a woman training for hours and hours every week, when a stronger, faster man can outperform her without putting in all the training?
I have paid to watch men and womens matches in the past. I would not watch a match where men were playing against women. I've played women's rugby in the past and I would not play full contact rugby against men - just too dangerous.

MichelleofzeResistance · 30/03/2021 20:46

it's utter madness that the biological lines are being blurrred for the sake of 'inclusion'.

But it's kind for female people to willingly take the risks of injury and death so that the included person can be happy and play with them. Being killed probably levels your privilege or something. It used to be called original sin, the punishing of women for the crime of being born women.

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 30/03/2021 20:43

They can follow World Rugby's excellent protocol.

And they can support wider roll out of touch rugby, a brilliant sport & safe to play mixed sex.

BlackAlys · 30/03/2021 20:42

God, as a fairly hard-core Welsh rugby supporter (local, regional and National fan), I wince at the hits that our male and female players give and take during a game.

It's sheer madness to allow a biological male to play with female rugby players. Madness.

In an era where rugby players are being vocal about the risks of contact sport (head injuries, early dementia etc), it's utter madness that the biological lines are being blurrred for the sake of 'inclusion'.

MichelleofzeResistance · 30/03/2021 20:41

I don't understand why there is so much hand wringing about stopping male bodied people slam into female bodied people and hurting them.

Because it limits the male bodied people's validation of their gender identity which is unacceptably distressing to them. Far worse obviously than female people getting hurt or killed. Which is mere peanuts by comparison. And therein you see the wholly sex based thinking and sexism while simultaneously pretending that there is no sex and therefore no problem exists.

I feel like I'm living in a ruddy Carry On film at this point.

Sexnotgender · 30/03/2021 20:32

@GNCQ

Safety checks?? Fuck that shit. Just don't have male people on female teams.
Exactly.
MrsFin · 30/03/2021 20:31

Height and weight checks?

So for real men, in the men's game, the taller and heavier you are the better (week not quite, but you know what I mean).
Same goes for the real women in the women's game.
Trans women can only play if they are under a certain weight and height - that's hardly fair is it. It's almost as if they'd be better playing with men. 🤔

TipseyTorvey · 30/03/2021 20:28

GNCQ yup. It really is that simple. I don't understand why there is so much hand wringing about stopping male bodied men slam into female bodied women and hurting them.

GNCQ · 30/03/2021 20:22

Safety checks??
Fuck that shit. Just don't have male people on female teams.

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