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Transman Prinz Chiyo Gomes splits gay community: gay man accused of hate

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Shedbuilder · 30/03/2021 10:11

Prinz Chiyo is a transman who entered (and I'm told won, but can't confirm) the Mr Gay England competition last year:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53936529

Chiyo has talked publicly about Chiyo's experience of sexual abuse from an early ago. Chiyo is also an icon among young girls who want to escape the burden of femininity and is celebrated on BBC's Newsbeat.

A gay man who tweets as Sheridan Sinclair recently wrote an article about Chiyo and why he objected to a someone who talks openly about their vagina and the fact they menstruate qualifying to compete in Mr Gay England. This has set off a Twitterstorm. Sheridan Sinclair has been forced to close his Twitter account and take down his article.

twitter.com/mrgayengland/status/1376101627959074821

Before he was shut down, Sheridan Sinclair pointed out that many gay men have spent large parts of their lives being told there's something wrong with them, that they should learn to love 'pussy', and that having Chiyo compete in Mr Gay England is homophobic.

Sheridan Sinclair has been reported to the police for hate crime and is expecting a visit from the rozzers this morning. Fair Cop, I hope he's been in touch with you.

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FromDespairToHere · 30/03/2021 10:33

@Awning10

Just had a look at the Twitter link... one of the comments is from a drag queen called Miss Carriage.... Miss Victoria Carriage....
That's abhorrent.
Queenoftheashes · 30/03/2021 10:33

@GNCQ

Huh. So it's* happening to gay men now, not just Lesbians.

*It meaning bullying, silencing, abuse, police action...

I always thought once the woke turned on gay men it'll be the wake up call the world needs.

It's pretty shitty of a transgayman to appropriate the struggles of actual gay men.

A transman has their own struggles of course, but being a bepenised person attracted to other bepenised people is not one of them.

Exactly
Frogartist · 30/03/2021 10:33

@Awning10

Just had a look at the Twitter link... one of the comments is from a drag queen called Miss Carriage.... Miss Victoria Carriage....
That's just awful Sad
Cabinfever10 · 30/03/2021 10:29

Sorry doxed not dozed bloody auto correct

Cabinfever10 · 30/03/2021 10:28

This homophobic bs has been happening to lesbians who don't want to date/have sex with trans women for years. They have been called transphobic, threatened, abused and dozed for not accepting "lady dick ".
Trans women "lesbians" even run courses on how to overcome the cotton ceiling ffs.
Do we hear anything about this in mainstream media no, but 1 gay guy gets the same treatment for speaking out against the homophobic gender bs and he gets an article on the BBC.
I guess that we should be grateful that misogyny and the patriarchy still come before everyone else though I'm sure it helps that we are talking about a trans man rather than a trans women

GNCQ · 30/03/2021 10:26

Huh.
So it's* happening to gay men now, not just Lesbians.

*It meaning bullying, silencing, abuse, police action...

I always thought once the woke turned on gay men it'll be the wake up call the world needs.

It's pretty shitty of a transgayman to appropriate the struggles of actual gay men.

A transman has their own struggles of course, but being a bepenised person attracted to other bepenised people is not one of them.

Kit19 · 30/03/2021 10:24

Sheridan's piece was heartfelt and sad.

it's utterly mad; just as the definition of women does not include men so the definition of men does not include women

Shedbuilder · 30/03/2021 10:24

It'll be interesting to see how the police balance transgender and gay rights, won't it?

Chiyo hasn't gone down the gender reassignment route, so isn't covered under the EA 2010 by the protected characteristic of Gender reassignment. Sinclair is a gay man and comes under the protected characteristic of Sexuality.

In many ways (sorry Sheridan) it would be great if the police waded in and we could see this go to court.

This is the first time I've come across Prinz Chiyo Gomes. Chiyo is the walking embodiment of why so many girls want to escape femininity and all the sexual abuse that comes with it. I find it extraordinary that the BBC, the respectable, apparently thoughtful BBC, have promoted Chiyo so unquestioningly.

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Awning10 · 30/03/2021 10:22

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NecessaryScene1 · 30/03/2021 10:18

Link to archive of Sheridan's piece, which is excellent: archive.is/9xMM8

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 30/03/2021 10:14

I still can't believe police are going to turn up to Sinclair about his view or measured expression of it on a social media platform.