Suicide rate of those who have undergone reassignment

Hold up, so gender dysphoria isn’t a mental health condition but has been recognised in American courts as a disability? I am confused.
Or is gender dysphoria not a requirement for a ‘trans’ identity hence the ‘umbrella’ Blue referred to?

So you don't doubt the the existence of gender identity. That's good.

I think people on here don't doubt the existence of gender dysphoria. That's different.

I don't think anyone has ever questioned that gender identity is a very real subjective experience for those who believe in it.

I am an atheist who lives in a devoutly religious country. People's beliefs are hugely important to them, & I'm happy to respect that they hold them, despite not sharing them.

If being transgender does not cause significant distress why is the affirmation approach the only approach you believe to be correct?

If trans people weren't distressed at the mismatch between their sex and their perceived gender then hormone therapy and surgery wouldn't be needed.

It's most certainly not a conspiracy theory.

It's well-established that transsexualism was manipulated into a transgender umbrella that sought to encompass transvestitism.

"Personally I would rather listen to those who have actual lived experience, thank you for sharing"

So you don't doubt the the existence of gender identity. That's good.

"A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. "

And this is due to the ridiculous notion of a transgender umbrella. Transgender is not transsexual- being transsexual is just one small part of the umbrella at approximately 2%.

Political ideologies have manipulated a lot of things - it doesn't make it right.

I will say it again- there is absolutely NOTHING normal about wanting healthy body parts removed.

I found your attitude arrogant. I felt you were being dismissive of BlueLipstick's diagnosis and experience.

However, perhaps I misinterpreted. It is not always easy to gauge tone from the written word.

Haven't said anything about what "sort" of trans person she is, I have merely pointed out that she is wrong to describe being transsexual as a psychological disorder

I don’t think @BlueLipstickRocks has actually told us what gender they are have they?

Sorry Blue, It’s very rude of us to be speaking on your behalf. I’ll back off now.

[quote Soontobe60]@BlueLipstickRocks
Thank you.

@Shizuku
Trust you to have an opinion that is counter to that of someone who is actually living that life. 😩[/quote]
It's not an "opinion", it's what the people who actually define psychological disorders say. If you don't like it, you'll have to take it up with them.

""A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxiety, depression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons.

No questions, just hoping that it's made you happier!

As someone who has the psychological disorder of transsexualism I can say with absolute certainly that it most certainly is.

What is your credentials to say that it isn't? This is my lived experience for decades.

@BlueLipstickRocks
Thank you.

@Shizuku
Trust you to have an opinion that is counter to that of someone who is actually living that life. 😩

Sorry BlueLipstickRocks, Shizuku says you’re the wrong sort of trans.

Breathtakingly arrogant, isn't it?

Sorry BlueLipstickRocks, Shizuku says you’re the wrong sort of trans.

Thanks for your comments btw, always interesting to hear from those with experience.

"A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxiety, depression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons."

www.transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm

"Dhejne: People who misuse the study always omit the fact that the study clearly states that it is not an evaluation of gender dysphoria treatment. If we look at the literature, we find that several recent studies conclude that WPATH Standards of Care compliant treatment decrease gender dysphoria and improves mental health."

I'm of the old fashioned type.... I wasn't diagnosed with "Gender Dysphoria" but with Transsexualism. It took well over a year with multiple practitioners and it was a diagnosis of exclusion - consider everything else first and only when other things are exhausted would they consider it.

Sadly nowadays it's a go to diagnosis even with obvious things like ASD being ignored.