British Cycling Consultation on Transgender Policy

I suppose my question is how can we stop them spreading this utter rubbish? Why do the media and politicians just blindly believe them, surely they ought to check, and as for sports bodies, haven’t they heard of sports scientists?? It’s so frustrating.

GonadTheGaul

The big problem, is that Stonewall in particular has been able to unduly influence media, politicians and sporting bodies, using exactly this kind of misinformation.

Alba I absolutely agree.

It’s so interesting. I do wonder how the person who has taken offence at this thread would have reacted if she had a daughter who was in the Great Britain squad, who’s hard work and dedication may be for nothing as a male born person might just take their place?

I just wanted to say hi to one of our watchers who appears to be monitoring this thread and has reported me (how?) for harassment to British Cycling.

So now stating scientific facts and upholding women's sex-based rights is 'harrassment'? That just shows how weak the TWAW lobby's arguments are, if that's all they have.

Quadzilla

Sorry to hear about that. One would have thought that we are on the right side of history, alerting people to what is happening.

Sorry, my mistake, I forgot the other tactics of intimidation and bullying.

Quadrilla - the athlete in question could become an immediate hero if they’d agree to ride in the male category.

A big problem with the consultation is that it was hard to share within a club as that could be considered transphobic and uninclusive, yet people I know who are heavily into cycling and racing were completely unaware.

Do sorry quadzilla

I wonder if the right side of history knows about the red guard...

It is, but also rather unsurprising.

I just wanted to say hi to one of our watchers who appears to be monitoring this thread and has reported me (how?) for harassment to British Cycling.

That is rather chilling isn't it?

Thanks. Apparently we’re not allowed to talk about a certain athlete their Mum will complain.
Even though the athlete in question voluntarily went public with their situation, we still can’t talk about it.
I did wonder why the first thread about that person went puff! And why some of my posts on this thread were deleted.

Jesus. Hey, monitors. Get a fucking grip on yourselves. Women are perfectly entitled to speak up for our sports.

You really think this kind of behaviour is making people sympathetic to your cause?

It’s an excellent submission.

I just wanted to say hi to one of our watchers who appears to be monitoring this thread and has reported me (how?) for harassment to British Cycling. 👋🏼

Fair Play For Women have submitted their response (link to it here: fairplayforwomen.com/british-cyclings-transgender-policy-review/). I enjoyed reading the summary very much.

Ahagwearsabonnet thank you but I missed it. There weren't any other links when I came back to it. Never mind.

@Manderleyagain (forgive me using @ but wanted to make sure you get the best chance of seeing this before it's too late) - I clicked the first link given to the survey on page 1 earlier, and got a message saying it had already closed. However, I then followed a different link lower down the page, which had an indirect link to the survey, and from there was able to complete it and have just submitted and got a completion message. So you could try that?

Also big BUMP for any other stragglers who still want to do this - get in quick using the right link and you might still manage!

I was filling in the survey, and by the time I clicked send it had closed! I have the text. I suppose I'd better email them.

Well done everyone. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this consultation. I’m not hopeful I think they’re captured and too craven to stand up for fairness. BC have not exactly got the best track record of looking after their female athletes.

From that Stonewall piece.

"The definition of sex -over medicalised language and should include that it is assigned at birth"

Why woulld you take advice from any organisation which uses incorrect terminology? It should be "observed" not "assigned".

"There is no direct and consistent research to suggest that transgender female individuals (and transgender male individuals) have an athletic advantage in sportand, therefore, the majority of competitive sport policies are discriminatory against this population"

Again this is untrue. There is plenty of scientific evidence, that male bodied people have a distinct advantage when competing in the female category.

Finally got round to filling it in! I like a deadline.

Crap policy, totally muddled, shits on women.

Just bumping this as it’s the last day to tell British Cycling what you think of their policy. The policy is only a few pages long so doesn’t take too much time to read, although you might have a lot to say about it!

Stonewall have released their guidance for people filling out this consultation. It’s the usual guff with little consideration for women.

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