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It is unacceptable for me to feel that I don’t like men?

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OliverBabish · 25/03/2021 13:22

I got asked by my boss if I “hate men” - he’s not my boss anymore thankfully but my honest response is that I don’t like men very much. I’m not being an arse about it either - I’ve married a man, I’m aware there are ‘good men’ or whatever - that is truly how I feel.

Ignorant of me but I didn’t even know misandry was a thing (or that there was a word for it) until really recently.

Experience (and my job) has shown me time and time again that men are far more of a problem in our day to day society than women. I know I’d probably get into loads of trouble at work if I actually voiced that opinion, but generally speaking, is it that unacceptable for me to feel this way? Am I wrong to think like this? It doesn’t affect how I treat men, it’s just how I feel.

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LaurieFairyCake · 25/03/2021 18:33

Yeah as we can see from this thread when women don't like men they want to avoid them/could happily live in a woman's commune/not date them

When men don't like women they want to be around them ALL the time to assert their dominance/over power them/distress them

That's really quite fucking different Hmm

EdgeOfACoin · 25/03/2021 18:32

I don't hate men as a class. I have been lucky enough to work with some decent blokes and to have some very good male friends.

I don't like writing off entire groups of people anyway. Everyone is an individual.

IDanielRadcliffe · 25/03/2021 18:27

I see what you mean about the roles being reversed but typically men dislike women in such a different way to women disliking men that you almost can’t compare it.

Mn753 · 25/03/2021 18:16

I like men, I just couldn't eat a whole one.

PrintempsAhoy · 25/03/2021 18:13

You can not be wrong in how you feel.

Your feelings are your feelings

But maybe don’t broadcast it at work as it might be used against you somehow

IdblowJonSnow · 25/03/2021 18:13

Yanbu. Keep having these conversations with friends and then realising some of them have sons! Blush Many of them are in agreement with me in spite of this.

There are many men I like on an individual basis. As a collective, they are a massive problem.

Be careful who you have these conversations with would be my advice.

joystir59 · 25/03/2021 18:11

Being in the company of heterosexual couples is often an awful experience cos the woman all too often takes a conversational back seat, or gets talked over by her partner, or holds back, seems not fully present. As a lesbian used to mixing with mostly women, it's a tedious experience being around men/straight couples

Kenneldogsrock · 25/03/2021 18:07

I’m with you OP. I don’t like me per se, the way they behave ans expect women to pick up the slack etc but have male friends who I like and a boyfriend who is lovely. However in general no I don’t like them. I just can’t say it out loud.

TubeOfSmarties · 25/03/2021 18:05

Sigh

I hate men who ask "do you hate men?"

RadandMad · 25/03/2021 18:04

Impressive honesty there, @FifteenToes. Refreshing.

joystir59 · 25/03/2021 18:03

I think when 93% if violence is perpetrated by men and when so many women experience misogyny it's fine to hate men as a class.

CuthbertDibbleandGrubb · 25/03/2021 18:02

Not unreasonable to hate most men, given how you react and respond.

joystir59 · 25/03/2021 18:00

I don't like men as a class. I have some individual men who are in my family, but I would not share a home with a man. I find them boring and not of my tribe, which is women. I should say I'm a lesbian but I have some single heterosexual female friends who prefer the company of women too.

goodwinter · 25/03/2021 17:57

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

I dislike men very much but I wouldn't dream of telling anyone at work that because it's work and I act prpfessionally, they don't know anything about my social life, politics or religion either. I'd be asking why they are asking such a question.
I agree. Honestly if I was at the point where my boss asked if I hate men (assuming it's not completely out of the blue, but it doesn't sound like it is), I'd have to ask myself some serious questions about my behaviour at work. You're entitled to your feelings but they should never cross over into a professional environment in that way imo.
AcornAutumn · 25/03/2021 17:53

@selflove

I don't like men either, and I find this quite hard to reconcile with my conscience, because I have a son who I adore, and I'd cut off any man that said he "didn't like women" - it would be the biggest red flag ever to me, so I don't know why I hate sexism so much but am fine with Misandry.
Why is not okay for a man to dislike women? As long as we are all respectful and civil to each other, what's the issue?

As Mindy said in Emily in Paris "they can't police your thoughts, Emily. I'm from China. They tried that". Grin

selflove · 25/03/2021 17:47

I don't like men either, and I find this quite hard to reconcile with my conscience, because I have a son who I adore, and I'd cut off any man that said he "didn't like women" - it would be the biggest red flag ever to me, so I don't know why I hate sexism so much but am fine with Misandry.

AcornAutumn · 25/03/2021 17:44

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

I dislike men very much but I wouldn't dream of telling anyone at work that because it's work and I act prpfessionally, they don't know anything about my social life, politics or religion either. I'd be asking why they are asking such a question.
Yes OP I really would never discuss this kind of thing at work.
Shehasadiamondinthesky · 25/03/2021 17:41

I dislike men very much but I wouldn't dream of telling anyone at work that because it's work and I act prpfessionally, they don't know anything about my social life, politics or religion either. I'd be asking why they are asking such a question.

SmokedDuck · 25/03/2021 17:38

I suppose from my point of view, I have experienced things and seen things that make me feel that, without saying it, generally men don’t like women either. I take your point though.

There are for sure men who actively dislike women, which I would say is a bad thing - not necessity in a culpable way but something ideally one could get over. Also there are men who just don't relate much to women which I'd say is more neutral.

I don't think I'd say that it was generally true that men don't like women.

I don’t think anyone would know from observing me that I feel this way. And I don’t mean it in a hateful, malicious way either. I just realised the other day that this is honestly how I feel.

You didn't give the impression of being malicious, no worries about that. But I'm not sure it's that useful a sentiment, much like a feeling of liking or disliking any other group of people it can cut you off from people you might quite like, and it can be negative if it affects relationships.

Personally, I find men a little easier to get to know than women, and I've worked in male dominated areas, so I've tended to have a lot of male friends. I find them different than women as a group, but worthwhile friends.

Nellodee · 25/03/2021 17:36

Equal amounts of my most favourite people are women and men.

Far more of my least favourite people are men.

AcornAutumn · 25/03/2021 17:32

@SmokedDuck

What would you think if a someone, man or women, said the same thing about women? What f that person had had a hard time in their life because of things that related to women?

That's not a gotcha, at all, I mean if someone said that, what would your first reaction be, and if you pondered it, what would you think about that statement and the person's reaction? How do you think that feeling is likely to affect them or their lives or the people around them?

People have the feelings they feel, but we aren't necessarily at their mercy either, if we have feelings that are untrue or helpful, we can sometimes change them.

I wouldn't mind at all. People are entitled to feel how they feel.
hellcatspangle · 25/03/2021 17:31

Why do so many people think it's reasonable to group all men together? If you said you didn't like black people it would be unacceptable so whys this any different?

Sally872 · 25/03/2021 17:27

How would you feel if someone disliked your son or brother because they were a man? It's not ok.
Fine to be more cautious while you get to know men but disliking them purely on gender feels wrong to me.

OliverBabish · 25/03/2021 17:25

@AdaFuckingShelby

I don't like how men tend to behave when they're together. I have many male colleagues who I can rely on in a work setting but I don't chose male company very often. Saying you dont like men sounds quite sweeping but I get where you're coming from.
Yeah, I did think that after I’d posted that it sounds quite sweeping and generalised but I feel like it’s even easier to generalise when men are together - the behaviour is amplified
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OliverBabish · 25/03/2021 17:23

@SmokedDuck

What would you think if a someone, man or women, said the same thing about women? What f that person had had a hard time in their life because of things that related to women?

That's not a gotcha, at all, I mean if someone said that, what would your first reaction be, and if you pondered it, what would you think about that statement and the person's reaction? How do you think that feeling is likely to affect them or their lives or the people around them?

People have the feelings they feel, but we aren't necessarily at their mercy either, if we have feelings that are untrue or helpful, we can sometimes change them.

I suppose from my point of view, I have experienced things and seen things that make me feel that, without saying it, generally men don’t like women either. I take your point though.

I don’t think anyone would know from observing me that I feel this way. And I don’t mean it in a hateful, malicious way either. I just realised the other day that this is honestly how I feel.

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