Is this ok for my email pronouns

@ohhmyown I was thinking of this thread today as I received lots of emails with pronouns in the signature - I wonder if they were inserted by choice.

@StealthPolarBear
But you do like wimpy kid smile

No, I hate that too!

"you/your" (it doesn't specify third person pronouns)

A doctorate doesn't change a person's pronouns.

Prefer not to say.

"Dear Manager,

I will not be doing this for reasons that are personal and would appreciate if you would now stop pressing this issue.

I agree it looks messy incomplete so suggest it be permanently removed from my automatic signature.

Kindest of regards

Ohhmyown"

Luckily I am self-employed, but a lot of people in my industry do the pronoun thing.

If I was made to do it I would also want to list my patron saint, preferred make of car, favourite rugby team and best Diary of a Wimpy Kid book.

I'm an atheist who doesn't drive and has never sat through a game of rugby.

I'd put

M preferred pronouns are - 'Whatever seems most reasonable to you, I won't be offended whatever you use'

@Miaowse sensible enough response if there has to be something.

For those who don't see a problem with this,

I hope that they'll also be fine with declaring their religion, height, weight, sexual orientation, dietary preferences, age, income, marital status and disabilities in every single email.

I love

'sex-based, like my oppression'

That's what I'll put if I'm ever asked

I wonder why they have this - so assume everyone does this - and yet my dead contacts have footers that explain how best to communicate with them.

I’m sorry, this is one typo that’s just too good to pass up. Choices of Ouija board, medium or guided writing?

I’d ask why the company is not “inclusive” enough to respect that not everyone wishes to highlight their pronouns. Is this discrimination?

Yogyakarta Principle 6 is that its ok for you to offer your pronouns but not insist someone else gives theirs.

''The Right to Privacy
Everyone, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, is entitled to the enjoyment of privacy without arbitrary or unlawful interference... The right to privacy ordinarily includes the choice to disclose or not to disclose information relating to one’s sexual orientation or gender identity.''
yogyakartaprinciples.org/principle-6/

I wonder why they have this - so assume everyone does this - and yet my dead contacts have footers that explain how best to communicate with them. This is actually useful. Or maybe we ought to bite if we have dyslexia, sight problems, comprehension issues (I need that - ‘sorry I’m not technical so please don’t ask me for support issues’).

sometimes I'm tempted to turn up on zoom meetings with all the protected characteristics listed out and then be disapproving at people who dont show their support to me by listing all of theirs

why is it gender which isnt even a protected characteristic the only one that matters?

I would just put sex-based.
It doesn't need to indicate what yours are, if you’re happy for clients to continue addressing you by your surname, then they’re speaking to you, not about you.

'Xxx asks colleagues, clients and partners to respect that my pronouns are always at the forefront of my mind'

C-Priveledge my arse. All I’m seeing is m-priveledge.

Oh god now there’s ‘cis-privilege’ is there?!!

What with all my white-privilege alongside my cis-privilege I’m amazed I feel so shit most of the time. I should be bloody buzzing!!

I really do have genuine sympathy for trans and non-binary people for whom accepting or struggling with their gender is a source of stress and challenge.

Perhaps it is my cis privilege that I do not face this same daily challenge.

But gender occupies such a small part of my consciousness. I am so much more than my gender. I am a parent, a mother, sister, daughter, wife, British, white, from a working class background, middle aged, shit at sport, bit overweight, drinks too much, impatient, an introvert, straight, a woman.....

None of this needs to be declared on a written form of communication in my workplace. None of it is relevant to what I am emailing you about or what you are emailing me about.

There are many things about me that I struggle to accept and that have caused me pain and distress over the years, including how I have been treated due to my sex.

Why the fuck should I have to declare any personal information about myself that I don't want to, including how comfortable or not I am with my gender, in my email signature?