Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article

483 replies

Cwenthryth · 23/03/2021 17:57

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1374372934379204608?s=21
Julie Bindel has shared on Twitter that Reddit is banning any mention or sharing of her Spectator article & banning users for discussion Aimee Challenor/Knight as well.

Here’s the spec article
www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-green-party-s-growing-contempt-for-women-s-rights

Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
OP posts:
Thread gallery
17
FactsAreNotMean · 24/03/2021 17:05

The Green party's woman problem is here - archive.is/s4GPL
Is reddit censoring the spectator - archive.is/pG9xp

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 16:57

Can't read the spectator article but I did notice this....

Clearly reaching a wider audience now!

Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
Mournhold · 24/03/2021 16:57

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

NiceGerbil · 24/03/2021 16:45

It says Aimee left the greens citing transphobic bullying. Which is true and also a strong hint.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 24/03/2021 16:35

@MaudTheInvincible

That Metro article doesn't actually mention Aimee's gender identity. Just uses cross-sexed pronouns throughout.
It slips in a reference to transphobia though.
nauticant · 24/03/2021 15:52

If known, have you used the pronouns the individual uses to describe themselves in your story?

www.ipso.co.uk/member-publishers/guidance-for-journalists-and-editors/transgender-guidance/

UK Regulated publications ... Metro (Associated Newspapers Limited) Metro Scotland (Associated Newspapers Limited) metro.co.uk (Associated Newspapers Limited) metro.news (Associated Newspapers Limited)

www.ipso.co.uk/complain/who-ipso-regulates/?letters=m

Original poster
Cwenthryth · 24/03/2021 15:49

That metro article is very well written and just states all the facts. I don’t see how anyone could claim it was transphobic (am pre-empting that that will be a criticism!). It just shines a massive bright ray of sunlight on the whole situation.

Trying to blame an automatic process though....hmm. The original article mentions AC very briefly in passing, wasn’t even the focus of the article. I am somewhat unconvinced by the “overzealous automatic moderation” defence.

OP posts:
MaudTheInvincible · 24/03/2021 15:45

That Metro article doesn't actually mention Aimee's gender identity. Just uses cross-sexed pronouns throughout.

Tanith · 24/03/2021 15:41

AC is a handy cover. This is all too comprehensive for one not very bright 20-something to have achieved by themselves.

Now that light is being shone in certain murky areas, AC makes a nice, dispensable scrap to drop as a distraction.

NotTerfNorCis · 24/03/2021 15:29

What I don't get is how Challenor became so influential. This is a young person with a not-brilliant academic record and known mental health issues who has already been involved in situations that would have destroyed most people's careers.

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 15:26

[quote Siablue]This is being covered by the mainstream press now so hopefully more sunlight. This article in the metro is very good and makes it clear how serious the situation is.

metro.co.uk/2021/03/24/chaos-at-reddit-as-dozens-of-subreddits-made-private-in-protest-at-site-2-14297612/[/quote]

Wow. Doesn't pussy foot around the key facts.

PandorasMailbox · 24/03/2021 15:19

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 24/03/2021 15:13

Blimey if metro are covering it (and in a good way) then it must be bad...

Siablue · 24/03/2021 15:11

This is being covered by the mainstream press now so hopefully more sunlight. This article in the metro is very good and makes it clear how serious the situation is.

metro.co.uk/2021/03/24/chaos-at-reddit-as-dozens-of-subreddits-made-private-in-protest-at-site-2-14297612/

Livinginthecity · 24/03/2021 14:38

It's being discussed over at Quilette which has very light touch censorship. Supposedly a right wing forum but more like sensible. People who've had enough of this.

theuglyswan · 24/03/2021 14:27

It's interesting to now have proof that reddit admin's are not acting in the user's best interests. Which, I mean, we already knew that when all the subs like gendercritical were banned last year. But it bothers me to think that these unhinged admins potentially have access to private information.

Zeev · 24/03/2021 14:19

@AdHominemNonSequitur

Tech savvy grooming rings with hacking ability might have compromising information on people they can use to their advantage. Hence untouchable. Reddit must be a very useful platform for accessing and influencing the 'public' and as such would be a resource/ cyber territory they would work hard to protect.
Ding ding ding.
gardenbird48 · 24/03/2021 14:11

@Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud

When you have rubber man at the nspcc and AC embedded into stonewall advisory boards, the green party and the Lib dems so easily, is there anywhere that is speaking up for being concerned about "kinks" (I'm thinking ABDL stuff) around children? / Safeguarding implications?

I am now remembering Posie Parker's triggernometry interview and her answer to "the one thing that we aren't talking about but that we should be talking about as a society".

not forgetting the police officers posing with a 'furry' on a lead... Hmm
picklemewalnuts · 24/03/2021 13:13

It's interesting. I'd have concerns about certain fetishes and what they may tell us about an individual.

My bigger concern by far, is when those fetishes become known. I may worry about a scout leader with a fetish. I absolutely would worry about a scout leader who advertises their interest in a fetish.

That attention seeking behaviour of wanting validation for that fetish, to recruit someone to that fetish, to be 'open' about that fetish- that is the biggest red flag of all, for me.

ABDL in your private life? Well ok. Publicly open about ABDL? No position of authority or influence, none with any safeguarding implications, would be appropriate.

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 24/03/2021 12:26

When you have rubber man at the nspcc and AC embedded into stonewall advisory boards, the green party and the Lib dems so easily, is there anywhere that is speaking up for being concerned about "kinks" (I'm thinking ABDL stuff) around children? / Safeguarding implications?

I am now remembering Posie Parker's triggernometry interview and her answer to "the one thing that we aren't talking about but that we should be talking about as a society".

whatnow41 · 24/03/2021 12:10

I'm quite active on Reddit for sports and gaming subs. The GC subs are all long gone. I wander in to some of the LGBT subs occasionally but find it tiresome and soul destroying at times.

Then this gem popped up today, hidden away in a sub specifically for gay men. I won't name it as I don't want it silenced. Sunlight people!

Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
flyingfoxkins · 24/03/2021 11:50

@happydappy2

Think I read somewhere that the Challenors developed terf blocker for Twitter....and I am very concerned about their input to the advice to Girl Guides... join up the dots & it doesn’t look good
The Terf blocker was definitely a thing and caused much discussion at the time.
BahHumbygge · 24/03/2021 11:31

"I feel like we have been groomed (not by MN but by society) into not being able to say what feels "wrong", as we've been told that our parenting instincts (about so many issues) are just "right-wing hysteria"."

Remember the principle of Chesterton's Fence ... if buying a piece of land, and there's a seemingly random fence within it, don't rip it out before you work out what it's for... ie, applied to this, don't ignore your red flags and gut feelings when something seems wrong or off.

ArabellaScott · 24/03/2021 10:27

""Voicing concerns" is just another way of being bigoted""

Fab.

'shut mouth, open purse'