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Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article

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Cwenthryth · 23/03/2021 17:57

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1374372934379204608?s=21
Julie Bindel has shared on Twitter that Reddit is banning any mention or sharing of her Spectator article & banning users for discussion Aimee Challenor/Knight as well.

Here’s the spec article
www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-green-party-s-growing-contempt-for-women-s-rights

Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
Reddit banning users for sharing Julie Bindel article
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SuddenArborealStop · 24/03/2021 20:47

Oh it's 18k now Shock

SuddenArborealStop · 24/03/2021 20:47

Talking of Streisand effect : reddit comments might load differently for everyone but top for me is the AC situation with 9k upvotes

www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/mc5f4z/what_are_some_great_examples_of_the_streisand

happydappy2 · 24/03/2021 20:32

Yes, it would make sense if a trans man was on TV arguing for the inclusive language but the fact it’s a trans women just seems bizarre...when talking about cervical screening for women...

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 20:24

Notice that question didn’t get answered

Yep. Never does.

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 20:23

Still not a choice.

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 20:23

Ah yes, gah that's awful.

LouiseBelchersBunnyEars · 24/03/2021 20:19

@WarriorN

I meant, that Aimee seemed to be saying transmen choose to remove their cervix. So I'm not sure they know what one is.
I think it’s more like they have just o have it removed, because of the vaginal and cervical atrophy the hormones cause. But whatevs. Potato/potahto.
MaudTheInvincible · 24/03/2021 20:19

@FromEden

It was being discussed in FWR in August 2018

And on reddit in the Gender Critical sub, before it was banned. I wonder was AC involved in that decision too?

Yes; Glinner mentions it here grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/something-rotten-at-the-heart-of

LouiseBelchersBunnyEars · 24/03/2021 20:18

That’s really confusing.
It’s just AC saying, it’s not about me, it’s about trans men.
Oh really? So why the fuck are you the one here talking about it then?
Because no one gives a shiny shit about trans men. That’s why the word woman was banned, and the word man not. Notice that question didn’t get answered

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 20:06

I thought that at first but I think she's trying to make the point to the masses that a transman was a woman and will know they have a cervix.

Because getting Aimee on may have confused people who really are completely oblivious to this. So she wanted to make the point repeatedly that it wasn't any to do with AC and that AC had a prostrate.

gardenbird48 · 24/03/2021 20:01

[quote SunsetBeetch]I hadn't seen this video before.

[/quote] it is rather perfect that poor old Janice can't quite get her head around whether it is transwomen or transmen or cervixes etc.

It illustrates the level of confusion that this whole discussion creates and shows exactly why Cancer Research were totally wrong in removing the word woman (and yet, not removing man).

MichelleofzeResistance · 24/03/2021 20:00

The threads are here to be found from years ago. The inquiry results make interesting reading and the wording is important: not that the person involved did not understand safeguarding, but that the inquiry personal found that they were not capable of understanding. It was not lack of information or training, it was a capacity issue. This sort of thing is not lightly stated in a report.

I have never yet seen any statement or investigation generally into those who deliver advice, training and leadership to groups such as the NHS, Guides, local political groups, on behalf of LGBT umbrella organisations, whether those delivering that training hold safeguarding qualifications even to the most basic standard that anyone employed even to the level of a lunchtime supervisor would be required to hold. Never mind to the level of management qualified to guide policy and make recommendations - which requires a thorough understanding of safeguarding practice and the needs and requirements and law surrounding all protected characteristics. Not just one.

There has been a tremendous failure in the most basic due diligence by those commissioning this training. A terrifying failure to think in a rush to be enthusiastically nice.

NecessaryScene1 · 24/03/2021 19:58

Is there a fairly dry, factual timeline anywhere of all of the AC stuff?

Good question. I've been following for years, so hard to know where to start.

Try Glinner's recent post grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/breaking-reddit-goes-on-strike which has links to previous articles, plus a link to today's The Mess We're In stream on the subject. The stream is probably quite good - Arty explains quite well.

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 19:54

So I'm not sure Aimee knows what one is.

Ffs, the language bending!

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 19:53

I meant, that Aimee seemed to be saying transmen choose to remove their cervix. So I'm not sure they know what one is.

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 19:51

[quote SunsetBeetch]I hadn't seen this video before.

[/quote]

Aimee framed an answer as "trans men retaining cervixes" there. As if there's a choice? You'd only have part removed if cells were found. Very confusing discussion all round tbh.

WarriorN · 24/03/2021 19:44

The "U.K. politician" being banded about seems a stretch.

PotholeHellhole · 24/03/2021 19:43

Alfonso You are correct.

www.oustudents.com/introducing-the-new-committee-for-plexus-our-lgbt-group

TartrazineCustard · 24/03/2021 19:29

Is there a fairly dry, factual timeline anywhere of all of the AC stuff?

AlfonsoTheTerrible · 24/03/2021 19:06

Aimee is / was on some kind of LGBTQ+ advisory committee at the Open University, IIRC.

SunsetBeetch · 24/03/2021 19:05

I hadn't seen this video before.

happydappy2 · 24/03/2021 18:58

Absolutely Aimee is being used like a puppet....Who advised the Girl guiding trans inclusive police-Aimees Father-convicted rapist.

Yet Girl guides refuse to listen to Mothers concerns about the safety of girls unwittingly sharing overnight accommodation with male bodied people.....

persistentwoman · 24/03/2021 18:57

I remain concerned that Stonewall (who according to their CEO) are currently targeting primary schools, openly appointed AC to their trans advisory group at the time of the Green party / Verita report. Although AC subsequently left (or was removed) from that group, the fact that an organisation openly touting for business to work with children in schools made the appointment in the first place is unbelievable.
To the best of my knowledge, no Safeguarding body has ever asked Stonewall to account for that decision? Which is what would happen in any other organisation working with children in schools.

Tanith · 24/03/2021 18:54

"Are you saying that someone is or someones are using AC to push through their own agenda?"

It doesn't make sense that a not very bright 24 year old with a murky history is responsible for writing terfblocker, infiltrating Stonewall and the Green Party - all before they're 20 - then landing themselves another plum job that enables them to censor and attack anyone they see as a threat.
Aimee certainly isn't doing all this doxxing, covering up and cyber targeting by Aimee's self. Aimee has lots of friends to help, in lots of important places.

andyoldlabour · 24/03/2021 18:47

Xanthangum

Thanks for posting that video, I had never seen it before. It looks as though many people are adding to the comments from 3 years ago, with more relevant ones regaring the Reddit fiasco.
This has really opened people's eyes.