For Women Scotland lose case

Considering TM have been raped - despite presenting and sobbing to their attacker that they are male - I think it's sex that's the issue.

I'm pretty sure the aborted baby girls and the married off 8 year olds aren't suffering their discrimination on the grounds of perceived gender either. If women could opt out of their sex they would. This is all about - as always - trying to shoehorn male people into the group and forced team them.

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Have you seen these tweets from Kirsty Blackman

Kirsty Blackman

@KirstySNP

Replying to

@rachel__julia

and

@leftist_rage

Is there research showing that discrimination happens on the basis of actual sex rather than perceived sex or gender? Because otherwise it seems that a lot of energy is being poured into arguing about solving a problem that doesn’t exist, at the expense of solving one that does

Is anyone else blocked on Twitter by FWS? I am, despite the fact that I only follow and have never actually tweeted, I can only assume I've been added to an automatic block list for following the SNP/Nicola Sturgeon's accounts over there.

Nearly 125. Website will update soon re costs

Must be close - about 18k off last time i looked

Anyone know how they are doing on costs? Some will have donated via their site rather than crowdjustice so I assume the total is higher than the crowdjustice total

from what I can tell although self ID is not law, but it may as well be.

Quite intentional plan.

Get ahead of the law: get it to be normal and every day practice, get everyone used to it and believing they have no means of recourse from it, and then when the law's changed no one'll argue. (Except those bloody women who won't just shut up and hand over their rights quietly.)

This also means that when women want the law actually followed and insist on their own rights being respected too, you get the whole

• its been happening for years and you never noticed/minded
• you're rolling back rights
• the law and everyone using it is now totally confused by captured departments and the law having been re written and re worded to fit a preferred reality and then given as being the objective truth.

In all honesty, the level of gerrymandering and its success is bloody shocking. It's absolutely shocking.

I keep thinking however that those who broke this very grubby path need to think carefully. Because it's now been demonstrated how very easily a country's laws can be shifted in favour of a lobby group and a narrative created that makes it not only possible but MPs and others ranting loudly about the virtue of stripping away rights and being openly prejudiced against certain groups in favours of others.

Its beyond stupid. Because in a country where this can happen, you have nothing more than hoping your group stays in current fashion and favour. It can just as easily be you under the bus tomorrow, there'll be plenty of others happy to follow your lead to get what they want.

Ta

Can somebody tell me how to access or provide a link (not direct link otherwise it will be deleted) so I can dig (again) to FWS.

Also, I believe it's not permitted to ask someone whether they have a GRC, so whether or not someone has one is a bit of a moot point.

Well, I'm not a lawyer! With any luck some of the more knowledgeable women on here will chip in.

In theory it is still possible to exclude males from some certain situations/places (like refuges) no matter if they identify as transwomen. In law the Equality Act could be called upon to make certain posts/places exempt and thereby protect single sex provision.

But in practise, I'm not sure whether this happens.

There have been examples of rapists in women's prisons, Katie Dolatowski was placed in a woman's refuge after assaulting a child in toilets.

My understanding is that any male arrested who declares he is a transwoman will be automatically put in the female estate and assessed for risk afterwards. This was revealed during the recent Judicial review for keeping prisons single sex.

twitter.com/NoXYinXXprisons

I'm sorry, but from what I can tell although self ID is not law, but it may as well be.

@ArabellaScott ahh thanks for answering! I had thought that this meant self ID was essentially now law, glad to hear a GRC is still needed though! I am well acquainted at the anger around the defunding of monklands women’s aid, as someone who received so much support and help with them through one of the worst times in my life I’m beyond furious. I just don’t understand anymore, I’m getting less and less tolerant by the day because of it.

@MenopausalCrone the men of Scotland have no interest in getting behind their women unless it involves both parties being undressed at the same time. It’s been a long long time since men anywhere cared enough about women and children to want to protect them.

And before I inevitably get jumped on, yes I know some men do stand up for women and children, but men as a whole don’t generally go for the protector role anymore.

They need to be alerted to it through other means then. Seriously, it's time the men got behind their woman!

Scottish fathers of daughters have had v little to do with this really, it's the result of complex political manoeuvres and definitely not something the electorate has called for or supported

Shame on all the Scottish fathers of daughters!

If a man says the same words is that a crime too?

I did wonder if committing to paper the idea that women can talk about politics would be seen as a hate crime and cause a flood of blues and twos to the spot.

I wonder where in Scotland they plan to put the gulags?

Donated, hope they are able to appeal but at the very least don’t want to see them personally liable. That’s a tactic that lets only those with deep pockets get justice

Surely that’s some sort of crime now? Assault with a deadly ribbon or something

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Surely that’s some sort of crime now? Assault with a deadly ribbon or something...