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For Women Scotland lose case

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PandorasMailbox · 23/03/2021 12:16

Absolutely gutted for them Sad

twitter.com/ForwomenScot/status/1374330580473630721

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MargaritaPie · 26/03/2021 10:38

But the hate crime based on sex went ahead did it not? Or is this something else?

MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 23:54

Sorry wrong thread

MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 22:00

@MichelleofzeResistance

That would imply she thinks that if they were being wrongly perceived as girls they should have been let off? Or that someone should have asked their gender choice first? Or that she thinks anyone would care what a girl identified as and take it into account in this situation?

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

To answer your first set of questions- no idea. A few people on Twitter had a stab at trying to work out what she was on about (and are probably now in a dark room with a wet towel over their foreheads)

And to answer your second- No, it isn't just you.

NonnyMouse1337 · 25/03/2021 21:53

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

No.

ArabellaScott · 25/03/2021 21:33

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

No.

MichelleofzeResistance · 25/03/2021 21:16

That would imply she thinks that if they were being wrongly perceived as girls they should have been let off? Or that someone should have asked their gender choice first? Or that she thinks anyone would care what a girl identified as and take it into account in this situation?

Is it only me that finds it terrifying that people in power really are this stupid?

MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 20:43

I wonder how many perceived girls have been 'trafficked' for FGM and turned out not in fact to be possible candidates for it?

How many male born children have been accidentally put forward for FMG? Statistically. Ball park

Oooh, tough one. I’d hazard a guess at a statistically insignificant number. Perhaps even zero

By "perceived girls" did she mean children who are "perceived" to be girls, because they have vulvas, but really identify as boys?

toffeebutterpopcorn · 25/03/2021 20:38

@MissBarbary

Blackman is getting an absolute and well deserved thrashing on Twitter.
Good. Although she is probably complaining about all the meanies and trolls.
Sexnotgender · 25/03/2021 20:30

@MissBarbary

Blackman is getting an absolute and well deserved thrashing on Twitter.
She’s a fucking MP. Surely there are parliamentary standards she needs to uphold?
MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 20:28

Blackman is getting an absolute and well deserved thrashing on Twitter.

Sexnotgender · 25/03/2021 20:26

@MichelleofzeResistance

I wonder how many perceived girls have been 'trafficked' for FGM and turned out not in fact to be possible candidates for it? Angry

How many male born children have been accidentally put forward for FMG? Statistically. Ball park.

Oooh, tough one. I’d hazard a guess at a statistically insignificant number. Perhaps even zero.
AnyOldPrion · 25/03/2021 20:25

I concluded she probably didn’t know any details about either, which is decidedly poor for a female politician

Is anyone else blocked on Twitter by FWS? I am, despite the fact that I only follow and have never actually tweeted, I can only assume I've been added to an automatic block list for following the SNP/Nicola Sturgeon's accounts over there.

It may be nothing to do with who else you follow. If someone who has never tweeted follows me I mostly ignore, but occasionally block on the grounds it’s possible it’s a transactivist monitoring for potential reportable posts. I should imagine that’s more of a problem for FWS.

MichelleofzeResistance · 25/03/2021 20:23

I wonder how many perceived girls have been 'trafficked' for FGM and turned out not in fact to be possible candidates for it? Angry

How many male born children have been accidentally put forward for FMG? Statistically. Ball park.

Sexnotgender · 25/03/2021 20:00

@Sophoclesthefox

Good lord above, “a perceived girl”? “Trafficked for FGM”?

Has she thought about what she’s saying at all?

No. She’s a class A arsehole. Honestly beyond disgusting.
MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 19:46

@ArabellaScott

"trafficking a perceived girl for fgm"

What ... what does she think fgm is?

Well quite- she either doesn't understand what "trafficking" means or what "fgm" means.
Sophoclesthefox · 25/03/2021 19:44

Good lord above, “a perceived girl”? “Trafficked for FGM”?

Has she thought about what she’s saying at all?

ArabellaScott · 25/03/2021 19:41

"trafficking a perceived girl for fgm"

What ... what does she think fgm is?

CloudFormations · 25/03/2021 19:39

I have received many a judgment from Lady Wise in my time. She continues to be a brilliant legal mind. I’m delighted with this judgment, and proud to be Scottish today.

MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 19:26

It's just a minor point in the depths of her stupidity but what does she think "trafficking" means?

Manderleyagain · 25/03/2021 19:22

Sorry cross post.

Manderleyagain · 25/03/2021 19:21

And her follow up tweet when someone raised fgm

"I absolutely take your point on FGM, but I suppose I would have classed it as abuse rather than discrimination. I also think that I’d like to see the same penalties for someone trafficking a girl for the purposes of FGM as someone trafficking a perceived girl for FGM."

I don't know if she meant a male child who ppl think is female?? A female child would so obviously be covered by the laws.

mobile.twitter.com/KirstySNP/status/1375013146675544064

MichelleofzeResistance · 25/03/2021 19:17

Sorry Miss Barbary thanks for sharing those. I'll collect the bits of my exploded head.

MichelleofzeResistance · 25/03/2021 19:15

Confused oh but.... says the clever person, I'd class that as something completely different (to get the inconvenient bit out of the way of my agenda) so look, it can still be a mixed sex issue!

Main issue here: the absolute necessity to centre male born people in this as the most affected women. Everything else (notably all the female born people) second. Sexism on crack and in total denial.

MissBarbary · 25/03/2021 19:15

And as for the idiocy of "trafficking a perceived girl for fgm".

Blackman really is spectacularly dim.