For Women Scotland lose case

@toffeebutterpopcorn I completely agree with you that Scotland is inherently sexist - I'm sure most women could give everyday examples. It's just galling to have a Government which bills itself progressive which rates the rights of women so low. There was a post on this board recently where someone had done a FOI and in it the Scottish Government stated that their stance is 'transwomen are women' but in the review today, they had to admit that that isn't 'official' policy as it hasn't been assessed or reviewed. They just do whatever they want, with very little oversight. It is, as you say, misogyny with a different name.

@Iamhangingin you're so right about women having a second tax. It's actually quite humbling how much these grassroots appeals have managed to raise - it shows the depth of feeling of women, even if they're unable to be vocal about it.

European Court of human rights? But then I know that prisons seem to work against the Geneva convention when it comes to housing inmates, so...

They are still digging for an appeal I think? Well the allotment is still open anyway.

I don't know how we're going to manage to fight this, and all the other cases that will keep coming at us.
It's all so expensive. £100,000 raised and that's not enough even to cover how far the case has gone so far... Never mind an appeal.
How are we going to keep this up once we start seeing women in court trying to defend themselves against hate crime allegations?

Waitwhat23 - I think the thing is that it’s always been sexist - I remember men apologising if they swore in the street next to you ‘sorry there, hen’, one of my teachers used to say that he didn’t want girls in his class (he wasn’t joking), Getting heckled by ‘gorgeous men’ If you weren’t deemed pretty/happy enough looking, getting catcalled one school uniform...

All this ‘progressive’ nuts is just misogyny in a new hat. ‘Oh aren’t we progressive’ = ‘women shut the fuck up and listen to the men’s’.

I've donated (cos you know women now have a 2nd tax to pay just to be recognised as women, which I foolishly didn't even realise was something up for debate until the past few years - what a progressive world we now live in). Great that we can self ID by describing ourselves in written communication...... I'm not a legislative expert but that surely seems a bit lax?!

I fear that was the point @ASmallMovie - after all, who really cares about reforming the boards of quangos? It was a pure and simple trojan horse so they can turn around in a couple of years time and say 'well this has been the law here for ages...'

I'm genuinely embarrassed to be Scottish now. The final straw for me was the rejection of the amendments to the Hate Crime Bill. Living in a country which bills itself as progressive while dismantling sex based rights makes me worried for my daughter's future.

I honestly think we need to have a grassroots approach to the upcoming elections to make women's feelings known - what that should be, I'm not sure yet.

Off to donate. Desperately worried for women in Scotland. This is utterly outrageous.

Let's ignore the trolls, take a breath and focus on what we do next. Now where's my bank card...

For the love of god, what is going on up there??

This is terrible news for women in Scotland.

So ashamed of Scottish politics these days - a depressing state of affairs.

They currently still need about 49k so please support them if you can.

Scotland, which deludedly considers itself a progressive country, is now essentially woman-phobic.

Dire and depressing state of affairs.

Lucky if this gets even a paragraph in most newspapers / main news.

Every time I think this shitemare of a country can't get any worse, I'm proved wrong.

This is terrible.
Even more so when the First Minister of Scotland is a woman.

Precisely the point AlwaysTawnyOwl. It is utterly meaningless.

A part of me is in awe of the sheer audacity of the legislators to introduce self-ID in a piece of legislation purporting to promote women. That takes some shameless brass neck.

What's the point of having reserved places for women on public boards, if any man can 'be' a woman by changing the name on his utility bill?

Outrageous

I hope they can appeal

Fuuuuck. I'm gutted. Every argument made perfect, logical sense. Thinking about the issue for all of 2 seconds makes it perfectly clear.

I hate living in Scotland at the moment. Can't believe I was once proud of this country, it's just an embarrassment to me now.

This is terrible news. I'm so sorry for Scottish women. Really hope they appeal.

So if a woman has a unisex name (say, Leslie) and is a doctor, so goes by the title Dr, how does this person live as either a woman or a man?

Is the only thing that makes Dr Leslie a woman the fact that other people refer to her as 'she' and 'her'? Literally nothing else makes Dr Leslie a woman?

And if Dr Leslie is referred to as 'he' or 'him', does that literally make Dr Leslie a man?

I'm so very sorry to say it, but I'm glad I no longer live in Scotland and no longer work at one of the world's best universities due to the erasure of women like this

The point of the Public Boards Act was specifically to redress the historical imbalance in female representation. Allowing males to take the place of females clearly does the opposite SweetPetrichor.

This is the reverse of equality for all.