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Suzanne Moore - young women should learn from older generations

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ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 10:03

In the Telegraph today.

'It’s 2021. It’s time to reclaim the streets, reclaim our rage, reclaim our history and make some more. I don’t care what this wave gets called. It’s time for a tsunami. '

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/can-turn-moment-movement-women/?fbclid=IwAR17A6AutjtkJmI7uKeHqUN7x-rEnZL3mk2ELS6dYUVv4Du9TNB-rZKT2SU

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stumbledin · 23/03/2021 17:55

I dont know but it seems to be part of a trend in parenting that says anything young people say must be affirmed. Dont challenge.

Even the infamous LOL - why did everybody assume it was Cameron(?) who was wrong rather than young people not knowing WtF they are talking about. It's one thing coming up with something new but not knowing the real meaning of things and then just assuming your tiny teen brain can "assign" its real meaning it really dangerous.

Politics is boring. Oh I'm so sorry I'll dumb it down to the level of a ten year old. And yet at the same time the 10 year old would be outraged to communicate with a young relative who is just learning to form words. I'm getting really worried we wont be able to do anything soon, because to do instantly makes all those who cant feel they are being shamed / bullied.

There was an article in something in the FT going on about how employers need to learn how to be employers to milleniums and made it sound like they were permenantly in therapy. Dont criticise, dont point out its their first job and they might have to work their way up.

Its like Uber cabs. Young people go oh it gives me freedom and old fashioned cabs are so expensive. showing they are unable to put 2 + 2 together and realise that getting what they want means they are forcing people to work for shit wages.

There is now 2 or 3 generations of people who went through an education system that encouraged them to think Women's Liberation is old fashioned and not relevant, that you dont listen to old people, and that in their shiny new world what you wish for is true ie you can change sex.

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 17:23

I seem recently to have heard of a lot of children going 'nc' with their parents/mothers, stumbledin. I was reading that it is becoming more and more common. A horrible thing to happen to a parent (I'm sure there are often good reasons for children to do so). Maybe it's the fear of that?

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stumbledin · 23/03/2021 15:16

Well judging by the actions of those runing the Reclaim These Streets goup with thousands of members, this will be ignored.

Not only is there routine ageism and NAM, but women are being booted out of the group for talking about women facing sex discrimination because this makes AMAB persons claim transphobia. Not posting articles from Nordic Model Now because it means you are listening to SWERFs and so on.

Am beginning to think that older women, or rather women of any age who want to focus on women and the discimination and violence they face because of their sex should just get on and do what they want.

Sometimes I think feminist mothers of daughters are so worried about alienating their daughters that they are putting the family relationships above what needs to be done.

Why?

Many young women are actively hostile to older women. Maybe older women just need to accept they aren't going to be liked by their daughters all the time, and this is one of the times that their politics should come first.

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 23/03/2021 13:11

Brilliant, thanks Arabella

persistentwoman · 23/03/2021 12:02

Great article - and in the open to all today Telegraph

2Rebecca · 23/03/2021 11:52

Excellent

ArabellaScott · 23/03/2021 11:49

I thought so!

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ShoppingWomble · 23/03/2021 10:58

This is great!