Grim list of sex abuse claims against the Met

Not surprising. Living in a county town I know a few police men / women. Some are normal. Some are bloody awful sexist people. I’ve heard in pub conversations Comments about dead victims, attitudes about women who use dating sites. Some of them think they are above the law and operate in a different universe to those of us in offices etc. Yet the majority are excellent I’m sure and I wouldn’t want to police the streets and be spat on daily.

Here are 2 more awful examples of Met police officers, both reported today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/2463584c-92b8-11eb-af3b-900f1f5fe235?shareToken=84b36122fb0ea3ff7c40f09206783692

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9426867/Ex-Met-Police-officer-childrens-football-coach-guilty-sexually-abusing-15-boys-girls.html

I know this isn't directly related, but it is more evidence of a serious problem with met officers.

Met Police officer, 22, is found guilty of belonging to banned neo-Nazi terror group National Action as well as having bomb making manuals and child porn

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9426977/Met-Police-officer-22-guilty-belonging-banned-neo-Nazi-terror-group-National-Action.html?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral

Something is obviously going wrong on the recruitment process.

I guess, but unless you're a complete chump, I imagine it's pretty easy to say all the right things and not reveal that you're a violent misogynist when you're being recruited, assuming you haven't already got a criminal record for any of it.

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I saw this article about the sexist culture too. www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-sexism-locker-room-boys-23766285

Police are recruited from society and are just people like everyone else.

Except that there is probably a higher proportion of abusive, misogynistic arseholes than in the general population in a job where they know the job will give them the opportunity to prey on the vulnerable and indulge their violent tendencies.

It is horrific, but I found the article quite confused. Men who happen to be police officers who commit acts of domestic violence and are then sacked are a separate issue from the institutionalised misogyny of the police & justice system. Unless the Met knew that they had violent and misogynistic tendencies before recruiting them, it hadn't done anything wrong in those cases, and did act appropriately when it found out. (It would be great if we could screen out men with these tendencies from entering the police, medicine, the Law etc, but at the moment we can't do so reliably, unless they have a criminal record.)

I am not minimising the suffering of their victims but I'm concerned it lets the Met off the hook to include these cases in an article about the many incidents when the Met has completely failed to take appropriate action against men who use their status as police officers to assault women, or when it fails to take violence against women seriously. Violence against women is horrific in any context, but it is much worse when a man in a position of responsibility uses that position to target women.

Police are recruited from society and are just people like everyone else. We basically need more female officers.

Horrific. It makes my blood boil to think of these disgusting excuses for human beings getting away with this behaviour when they are employed to protect people.

If you are in trouble perhaps a policeman is the last person you need?

Misogynistic men will always use whatever advantage/power/dominance they have over women to abuse them, and will actively seek out positions which give them that opportunity.

None of these men who have been caught and disciplined will have been caught the very first and only time they did something.

Anyone remember their Mother telling them ' if you're ever in trouble run and find a policeman.' 😕

Read this story this morning, these stories are horrifying, police praying on the vulnerability of women time and again. But if violence and sexual violence against women has very few consequences in the justice system, what else can we expect?!

Just reading it. non-consensual sex ???
Among those was a Met officer who was dismissed after allegedly pretending to be a woman online “to advance his sexual proclivities and also film a woman apparently having non-consensual sex with a male in a public park”.

Do we all need to do a FOI request as was done for Stonewall?

It's truly shocking but not surprising, unfortunately.

I would be interested to know how many were actually charged and are going/have gone through the judicial system.

It puts the CoP trans guidance which ignores the rights of women and girls in context...

This is awful.

Reminds me of when a policeman who was dealing with a theft I had reported in London (about 5 years ago) tried to add me on Facebook. Obviously this isn't comparable, but it still felt very inappropriate. I didn't say anything, perhaps because I felt bad about potentially getting him into trouble over something so apparently innocuous. But maybe I should have. The "friend request" is still there pending on my account (I didn't want to delete the evidence).

Sadly not surprised. Toxic masculinity and the chance to abuse of power.
There's an ex met officer who lives locally. He wrote a semi autobiographical book (self published) based on his career, disturbingly misogynistic and alarming how he described the victims he encountered and who had the misfortune to have him as their IO.
Some one reported it to the Met Prof standards. They weren't interested.