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Jolene, and other anti-feminist anthems

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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 20:14

Just to say this is a light-hearted chat thread.
I love jolene, sing it with a minor adaptation every time I'm cleaning the windows. I have no idea about the background, but it must come near the top of the least feminist songs ever!
Another which I've just heard is sheryl crow, strong enough. "lie to me, I promise I'll believe, lie to me, but please don't leave"
Brilliant song, awful lyrics :)
Any others?

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SheikahSlate · 20/03/2021 21:14

@StealthPolarBear

If we're going for overtly awful, smack my bitch up by prodigy fits the bill. What on earth were they thinking??
Yes, and I'm sure they tried to disingenuously pass it off as ironic too, of course.
Babygotblueyes · 20/03/2021 21:13

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Delilah
This. Great to sing along to, really catchy tune, but yikes the sentiment!
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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 21:12

Human league: but she comes right back and tells him where to stick his smug self-satisfiedness

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SmokedDuck · 20/03/2021 21:11

@Serenster

I've Been to Paradise, but I've Never Been to Me is terrible: travelling the world and having amazing life experiences counts for nothing besides being a housewife and mother Hmm
I don't know. It's pretty mawkish obviously, but it reminds me a lot of the part in, I think it's Anne of Avonlea, where the Miss Stacey tells Marilla that it has taken her all these years and travels and such to realise that she was in the best place where she started.

I think it's about realising that all those experiences aren't what make you who you are, and maybe aren't as lasting as a deep sense of place and a family.

I don't expect everyone will agree with the sentiment, but it's a bit different to call it anti-feminist. Feminism doesn't have to be about atomic individualism.

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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 21:11

If we're going for overtly awful, smack my bitch up by prodigy fits the bill.
What on earth were they thinking??

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DaysAreGettingLongerNow · 20/03/2021 21:11

@Nitpickpicnic

Surely ‘Who let the dogs out’ takes the medal?

I wish someone would come up with a catchy tune about actual canines, for all the radio and tv producers to use whenever there’s a segment relating to doggies. I can’t tell if they don’t know the meaning behind WLTDO, or do know and don’t care. Both are depressing.

I get very stabby when it’s played, or when I hear little kids singing it.

Think I’ll start composing a contra-version ‘Who invited all these micropenis guys to the party?’ in my head next time.

I thought it was the other way around, that the badly-behaved men were the ‘dogs’ and a woman called them out on it?
WarOnWomen · 20/03/2021 21:11

Another fan of Jolene here. 😁

Don't You Want Me by Human League. Love the song, really catchy but oh he is so disparaging of her.

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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 21:10

Ooh fantastic.
Didn't dolly also adapt it for the vaccine vaccine recently? She is brilliant.
Though she did pinch that idea from me, with my windolene, windole...ene tune. I don't care she sang it first.

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Toseland · 20/03/2021 21:09

‘Girls’ by the Beastie boys - terrible terrible lyrics, rockin’ tune.

EasterGuineaPig · 20/03/2021 21:09

@StealthPolarBear

Blurred lines was overtly awful. So it had that going for it. It was out when my dc were young primary school aged and played at school parties. Urgh.
Will never forget my DH’s elderly grandparents dancing to this at a family wedding Shock

The beautiful ‘Smack that’ by Akon is definitely not a feminist anthem.

SheikahSlate · 20/03/2021 21:09

I've always found Coldplay's 'Fix You' incredibly creepy. I get weird vibes from it.

Spidder · 20/03/2021 21:09

creamcrackers that's the one! I love a good narrative in a song anyway, but I love the big 'fuck you!' That comes at the end.

I have a secret penchant for a bit of cock rock. Lots of v unfeminist lyrics to sing along to, until you get to the nice, naval gazing, grunge years.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 20/03/2021 21:09

@Spidder

In contrast, does anyone know that other country song about the woman called in to the pta cos her clothes are inappropriate? But she turns it round in the last verse and calls out their hypocrisy.
Jeanie Riley - Harper Valley PTA.

Reminds me of 1968 Dolly Parton classic in which she addressed double standards women face with, Just Because I’m A Woman which was an anti-slut shaming anthem before “slut-shaming” was recognised as a mainstream phenomenon.

ArabellaScott · 20/03/2021 21:08

@Deliriumoftheendless

“ When your body's had enough of me And I'm layin' flat out on the floor When you think I've loved you all I can I'm gonna love you a little bit more”

No you’re fucking not, mate.

Grin
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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 21:07

Mamette that would make more sense. Again... My naivete

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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 21:07

I ge uinely thought it was about leaving the gate open and the dogs escaping Blush

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Mamette · 20/03/2021 21:06

@StealthPolarBear

Oh yes just be good to me. I always think that, I realise yiure a bit of a shit but things are OK at the moment. Maybe your previous girlfriends didn't understand you.
Oh. I always though the “other girls” were concurrent.
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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 21:06

They used in the summertime on a drink drive ad. Not young girl, that would be very odd.

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Serenster · 20/03/2021 21:06

Grr, Harper Valley

Serenster · 20/03/2021 21:05

@Spidder

In contrast, does anyone know that other country song about the woman called in to the pta cos her clothes are inappropriate? But she turns it round in the last verse and calls out their hypocrisy.
Haper Valley PTA by Jeannie C Riley. There was a tv series based on that song!
ImAlrightThanx · 20/03/2021 21:05

@Nitpickpicnic

Surely ‘Who let the dogs out’ takes the medal?

I wish someone would come up with a catchy tune about actual canines, for all the radio and tv producers to use whenever there’s a segment relating to doggies. I can’t tell if they don’t know the meaning behind WLTDO, or do know and don’t care. Both are depressing.

I get very stabby when it’s played, or when I hear little kids singing it.

Think I’ll start composing a contra-version ‘Who invited all these micropenis guys to the party?’ in my head next time.

is it not about sex pest men? www.zmonline.com/music/music-news/the-real-meaning-for-the-song-who-let-the-dogs-out-isn-t-what-you-think-it-is/
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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 21:04

@minipie

Oh a really bad one “In The Summertime”

As well as “have a drink, have a drive” it also contains the following:

If her daddy's rich, take her out for a meal
If her daddy's poor, just do what you feel

Niiiiice

Ah yes good one. And yet that was from "my time" and has a catchy tune. I think even when I was young "young girl" was considered a bit creepy. Thought they did use it on a drink drive ad when I was a teen. Maybe they now need to use it on a consent/respect advert.
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Creamcrackersandricecakes · 20/03/2021 21:03

@Spidder

In contrast, does anyone know that other country song about the woman called in to the pta cos her clothes are inappropriate? But she turns it round in the last verse and calls out their hypocrisy.
That's Harper Valley PTA by Jeannie C. Reilly. Used to get sung load when I was a karaoke host. I love I've Never Been To Me - yes, the lyrics are dodgy now, but the song was released in 1982 - it was of its time. I think 'Fix You' is actually quite sweet - Chris Martin wrote it for Gwyneth when she was totally grief stricken after her father died.
Notthecarwashagain · 20/03/2021 21:03

'Think of her in bed
Lying there just watching telly
Then think of me instead'

''l'll never grow so old and flabby
That could never be'

'She's a PhD in "I told you so"
You've a knighthood in "I'm not listening'

Urgh it's just a whole song of shittiness! Gave myself the hump now Grin

boireannach · 20/03/2021 21:02

Hey Girl Gary Puckett and the Union Gap. I was a teenager at the time and it gave me the boke 🤭

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