Jolene, and other anti-feminist anthems

For all those commenting how great Dolly parton is, have they forgotten the comedy musical "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" 'cos prostitution is such fun!

Babooshka means old lady or grandmother. The dolls are called Matryoshka dolls.

..its Russian meaning..

I think I heard Kate b saying she just liked the word Baboushka but didn't know it's Russian meaning ( I thought it was a granny figure?)

Thay should read " then comparatively unknown, Yootha Joyce "

I've never heard the song, but thought that Babooshka was about a doll.

Before Max Bygraves recorded it, when it was performed at the Theatre Workshop, 'Fings Ain't What They Used T'Be' had different lyrics:
edited by MNHQ at OP's request

"In 1959 a new song appeared called Fings Ain’t Wot They Used T’Be. It came from a new production of the same name that debuted in Stratford, East London, and was written by a talented composer and lyricist called Lionel Bart. The combination of the words and music of that song was tuneful, witty, hard hitting – and is now almost completely forgotten. One could also argue that they were in extremely bad taste.
The production was quite a success in its day and it transferred to a run at the Garrick Theatre. Amongst the performers were a young, but already well established, Barbara Windsor and a, then comparatively unknown,
....The fact that this was in a jolly song was probably intended by Lionel Bart to really make it hit home all the more. Bart came from the East End and probably would have been aware of the realities of the day."

www.londonreconnections.com/2014/fings-aint-wot-used-tbe/

I'm sure I had a recording of the original song by Sid James.

I love her in the video with massive sword and terrifying stare looking like she means business

Haven't RTFT, but has anyone mentioned Babooshka by Kate Bush? About an older woman who sets a trap for her (presumably inattentive) husband, and he falls for it hook, line and sinker! A bit like a more sinister version of the Pina Colada song! The lyrics give the impression that the relationship has broken down over the years and she feels really bitter about it. Not sure if it qualifies as a feminist song, but the character in it certainly isn't taking any crap!

PMSL @theThreeofWeevils 😂

LTC?

MissBarbary- nobody told the Countess to forgive her husband

My point which you seem to have missed is on here she would have been told to leave him.

@MissBarbary - nobody told the Countess to forgive her husband. She chose to, and she made it conditional that he had to keep his dick to himself. She had made a point to him that she had engineered the whole thing along with Susanna to show him for the old fool he was, and reminded him that once she had been lusted after also. (And that she was not that old, not stupid, unobservant, or entirely subservient.). Also, he'd made such a total fool of himself, nobody'd be interested in fooling around with the old fart after this humiliating display he'd made of himself in public anyway.

I always thought Candy was about Cocaine....

I got into rap in the late 80's-know most of the words by heart and love it all lol but some standout lyrics are: Flavor Flav&Cube-im only out for 1thang(borderline comedy lyrics : )
IceCube-Look who's burnin'(good STD message tho).
Pretty much heaps of old school rap tho feel I can barely write this for being disloyal what I was raised on and the tunes/lyrics slay..the days when BigT&A bikini/hot tub vids were the go..
ODB-plenty(but damn he was up there with the best)
Notorius B.I.G hypnotise.
OPP-yep not a good look from either side of the fence.
Ludacris/DMX/Mystikal..heaps..but not shy in sayin it like it is for objectifying guys and girls so im on fence here-
R.Kelly(scuse me while i throw up)

Shout out to the ladies:
Khia-my neck, my back
Nicki
Megan Thee Stallion, Cardi,
Saweetie &Doja Cat-love Best Friend lyrics

I had no idea it was about a real person, I just thought it was a series of misogynistic caricatures of what he thought goes on in our silly little heads

Even if you didn't know it was about a real trans woman it seems obvious to me that it's a very sympathetic song about someone not in a good place.

There's a YouTube cottage industry in Jolene re-writes !

This is Dolly at Glastonbury including rather nice footage of the security team joining in.

IDK if anyone's posted this, but lesbian version of Jolene. I like it.

If the Countess were asking for advice on here I doubt she'd be told to forgive her husband.

Mozart was actually a rabid feminist for his era - see “The Abduction from the Seraglio”, “Marriage of Figaro” all his Opera Buffa genre. He made fun of the aristocracy and the ludicrous rules in place including the young women being bedded by old farts. Tbh, Mozart got away with treason simply by showing the Marriage of Figaro, which was part of a banned book series at the time, having brein blamed for having inspired the French Revolution, the Austro-Hungarian Empire did not want the plebs to get any ideas - but they adored him, and let him get away with it.

In the case of Because the Night there's nothing in the lyrics to say it's a woman talking about a man. It's been covered by U2, The War on Drugs, Father John Misty , Jason Isbell and Bon Jovi.

I mentioned The Marriage of Figaro earlier - you could hardly get a plot less likely of meeting feminist approval yet it has some of the most sublime and moving music ever written.

Is this an acceptance that trans women are women? Candy was Candy Darling- a trans woman.
Absolutely not, I had no idea it was about a real person, I just thought it was a series of misogynistic caricatures of what he thought goes on in our silly little heads,.

Another not so empowering song by a woman,
Patti Smith, Because the Night, such a great song that I love to sing along with, until it gets to

Come on now, try and understand
The way I feel under your command

Cmon Patti I love you but wtf is that?

What bugs me about Lou Reed and Candy Says, I mean, the character is his creation, he could have imagined her as anything, but he went with insecure, powerless, and shallow; she’s no Tess

Candy Darling was a real person. Candy, Jackie, Holly, Little Joe and the Sugar Plum Fairy in Take a Walk on the Wild Side were all friends of Lou Reed. I thought everyone knew that. Candy was insecure and powerless.

This is the famous photograph of Candy on her death bed. Anonhi when they still called themselves Anthony and the Johnsons used it as an album cover.

Yes little Joe and candy were real people he knew.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/music/shortcuts/2015/dec/07/holly-woodlawn-walk-on-the-wild-side-lou-reed-candy-little-joe

For misogyny have we had in the summertime?

Brown sugar by the stones is grim.

I mentioned get lucky earlier I think.

I mean it goes on and on and on and on...

I mean I have no idea wtf it means but nothing obviously misogynistic.

It's a very mournful sort of song.

Oh I haven't RTFT.

I like the velvet underground.

What's the complaint about Stephanie says?

Stephanie says that she wants to know
Why she's given half her life, to people she hates now
Stephanie says when answering the phone
What country shall I say is calling from across the world
But she's not afraid to die, the people all call her Alaska
Between worlds so the people ask her 'cause it's all in her mind
It's all in her mind
Stephanie says that she wants to know
Why it is thought she's the door She can't be the room
Stephanie says but doesn't hang up the phone
What sea shell sea is calling from across the world
But she's not afraid to die, the people all call her Alaska
Between worlds so the people ask her 'cause it's all in her mind
It's all in her mind
She asks you is it good or bad
It's such an icy feeling it's so cold in Alaska,
It's so cold in Alaska, it's so cold in Alaska