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Jolene, and other anti-feminist anthems

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StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 20:14

Just to say this is a light-hearted chat thread.
I love jolene, sing it with a minor adaptation every time I'm cleaning the windows. I have no idea about the background, but it must come near the top of the least feminist songs ever!
Another which I've just heard is sheryl crow, strong enough. "lie to me, I promise I'll believe, lie to me, but please don't leave"
Brilliant song, awful lyrics :)
Any others?

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RickiTarr · 20/03/2021 23:38

@KisstheTeapot14

I would walk 500 miles,

They sing something like

I'd give almost all my paycheck to you...

Oh bugger off back to the pub, I'm not that fussed about having it.

And I've changed the locks.

😂😆👏🏼
Redcrayons · 20/03/2021 23:37

Post too soon
Beyoncé drunk and feeling a bit frisky. JayZ is going all Ike Turner on her. What?

Goldigga Kanye west. Terrible Slut shaming lyrics, but great tune.

OfaFrenchmind2 · 20/03/2021 23:37

"Hey Mama" from Nicki Minaj gives me the rage. Every times I hear it I want to slap her in the face.

UniversalAunt · 20/03/2021 23:35

@Spidder

Scout2016 · 20/03/2021 23:34

That comment about Bruce leaving his wife and kids in Baltimore Jack tickled me.

Elvis's Don't is very off, but what a voice.

I love The Internet Special Affair but don't know what to make of it from this perspective, because it's a woman singing "have some booze, stop pretening to be nice, come home with me where I'll be great in bed but break your heart as I'm not stopping" to another woman. I'm paraphrasing the lyrics of course!

No Diggity - is that a love song to a sex worker? I'm not sure about that one lyrically either but I like it.

I once saw Blazin' Squad performing Flip Reverse, followed by the Cheeky Girls with their "touch my bum" lyrics. Urgh.

Redcrayons · 20/03/2021 23:34

Drunk in Love Beyoncé and JayZ.
She’s a bit drunk and feeling frisky, he’s says ges

Lovesacake · 20/03/2021 23:33

A song I love that also makes me cringe is Power by Little Mix. It’s all about female empowerment and then a man helpfully pops into the song halfway through to mansplain it to us, he helpfully reassures the listener that ‘you can be a woman and the boss and wear the trousers, at the same time’.

I bloody love the song but every time I hear that be I’m like ‘oh can I? Thank you 😂’

prawntoastie · 20/03/2021 23:32

absolutely love midnight train to Georgia, beautiful song but "il rather live in his world then without him in mine" is kind of low self esteem

KisstheTeapot14 · 20/03/2021 23:32

I would walk 500 miles,

They sing something like

I'd give almost all my paycheck to you...

Oh bugger off back to the pub, I'm not that fussed about having it.

And I've changed the locks.

mswales · 20/03/2021 23:32

@Sendmetobarbados

This Roy Orbison song's always set my teeth on edge:

'I drove all night to get to you
Is that all right?
I drove all night crept in your room
Woke you from your sleep to make love to you
Is that all right?'

If you're singing in the past tense about something you did to me, then only now asking if it's all right...it's NOT ALL RIGHT 🙈

It's not alright from the moment he drives through the night to "creep" into her bed while she was sleeping!
StarryGazeyEyes · 20/03/2021 23:30

More Dr Hook:

Who's gonna water my plants?
Who's gonna patch my pants?
And who's gonna give me
The chance to feel brand new?
Who's gonna iron my shirts?
Who's gonna kiss where it hurts?
And who needs a man when
He flirts the way I do?
Who, if not you?

ALittleBitofVitriol · 20/03/2021 23:30

Gotye, Somebody that I used to know

ALittleBitofVitriol · 20/03/2021 23:29

My nails on chalkboard song is the gotye one. Great tune and video, but it makes me snarl at how whiny and possesive he is.

He wasn't really into her, 'lonely in her company' and was relieved when she dumps his ass - Kimbra's verse explains more of his gaslighting jerkiness - but he'll whine about her moving on. Ugh. Reminds me of an ex boyfriend lol, maybe that's why it grates so much....

Sendmetobarbados · 20/03/2021 23:28

This Roy Orbison song's always set my teeth on edge:

'I drove all night to get to you
Is that all right?
I drove all night crept in your room
Woke you from your sleep to make love to you
Is that all right?'

If you're singing in the past tense about something you did to me, then only now asking if it's all right...it's NOT ALL RIGHT 🙈

KisstheTeapot14 · 20/03/2021 23:28

What Jolene did next...

'Seen her in the indoor market,
selling packs of streaky bacon...'

She could be like an Elvis figure.

Many lives, that Jolene.

OR maybe Dolly did her a favour and once she got that double timin' man out of her hair she went on to be rather fabulous.

noblegreenk · 20/03/2021 23:26

I love Jolene! I didn't like I'm the lyrics years ago when I first properly listened to them. But now I appreciate the story that Dolly is telling through the song. I also find it easier because it's an old song and times were different then. I find it worse with lyrics to more recent songs people have mentioned.

customwatkins · 20/03/2021 23:25

'OK now he was close
Tried to domesticate ya
But you're an animal
Baby it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
You don't need no takers
That man is not your maker
And that's why I'ma take a good girl'

Blurred lines....I still turn up the volume when it comes on though Blush

StormzyinaTCup · 20/03/2021 23:23

[quote PyongyangKipperbang]Modern C&W woman are EPIC. Miranda Lambert, Carrie Underwood, et al have all done some real FUCK YOU songs! One of my personal favourites is Carrie Underwood "Before He Cheats"

[/quote] Yes, definitely been a change in recent years for the better, much more 'kick ass'!
PyongyangKipperbang · 20/03/2021 23:22

Not seeing the Tina one to be honest.

She loves him but doesnt want to make herself vulnerable and is trying to convince them both that it means nothing.

RickiTarr · 20/03/2021 23:22

[quote CliantheLang]Agree with VenusTiger: "Jolene is an amazing song about strength and compassion (to me anyway) and DP is just utterly fab."

Joplin's Piece of My Heart : I always interpret it as a woman who knows she's in trouble and is enraged about it. Probably not how it was written.

My guilty sexist pleasure: Gordon Lightfoots (That's what you get) for lovin' me.

That's what you get for lovin' me
That's what you get for lovin' me
Every thing you had is gone as you can see
That's what you get for lovin' me

I ain't the kind to hang around
With any new love that I found
'Cause movin' is my stock in trade, I'm movin' on
I won't think of you when I'm gone

So don't you shed a tear for me
Because I ain't the love you thought I'd be
I got a hundred more like you, so don't be blue
I'll have a thousand 'fore I'm through

Now there you go you're cryin' again
Now there you go you're cryin' again
But then someday when your poor heart, is on the mend
I just might pass this way again

[/quote] Shit. I LIKED Gordon Lightfoot. Nothing is safe.
VienneseWhirligig · 20/03/2021 23:20

Bunny boiler song - Natasha Bedingfield's I Wanna Have Your Babies. Exhibit A:

Trust me it would scare you
If you knew what was going on in my brain
Trust me it would scare you
That I picked out the church or the schools or the names

StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 23:20

Not Tina as well?!

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Catsonacradle1 · 20/03/2021 23:19

What's love got to do with it tina Turner....

mswales · 20/03/2021 23:17

@SusannaMorvern well if we're talking about Bruce what about Fire??!!
I LOVE this song and always feel a bit guilty singing it!

I'm driving in my car
I turn on the radio
I'm pulling you close
You just say no
You say you don't like it
But girl I know you're a liar
'Cause when we kiss
Ooooh, Fire

Late at night
I'm takin' you home
I say I wanna stay
You say you wanna be alone
You say you don't love me
Girl you can't hide your desire
'Cause when we kiss
Oh, Fire
Fire

StealthPolarBear · 20/03/2021 23:16

I'd still argue the video is designed to appeal to a certain type of man tbh.

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