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This never happens - man jailed for rape and attempted rape in women’s toilets

110 replies

IDanielRadcliffe · 17/03/2021 18:14

news.sky.com/story/former-bristol-city-footballer-who-targeted-women-in-nightclubs-jailed-for-rape-offences-12248824

“He has on two separate occasions subjected women to violent acts in what should be a safe and private space.”

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2021 20:18

I’m really excited to find out about this other sex chromosome, I was getting so bored of X and Y and various combinations of them!

And the third gamete, some really historic discoveries being made!

continuallyconflating · 19/03/2021 20:15

You need to read more science.

Who are you posting this for?

You have repeatedly attempted to prove your points with journalists interpretations of research papers

When the woman on this board go and find the papers the articles you post are based on, and go through them in forensic detail pointing out they don't say what you think they say, explaining exactly why, you ignore them and just repeat your tired talking points.

Wondermule · 19/03/2021 19:53

I’m really excited to find out about this other sex chromosome, I was getting so bored of X and Y and various combinations of them!

GNCQ · 19/03/2021 19:45

Sounds like you haven't progressed beyond the old "sex is a simple binary trope". You need to read more science.

I'd love to hear more about this "new science" proving sex isn't binary

"Intersex people exist and this proves sex isn't binary" gender ideology myth 100.

(Yes people with DSD do indeed exist, and there are disorders of development that affect male humans, and disorders that affect female humans, these various disorders have different names and they more often than not render an adult infertile, not turning them into some sort of other sex....)

So. Let's hear it Shizuku!

Wondermule · 19/03/2021 19:40

By saying sex isn’t binary in this context, you’re making out being trans is synonymous with being intersex. Do you think if the chromosomes of trans people were studied, they would all be intersex?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2021 19:40

Sounds like you haven't progressed beyond the old "sex is a simple binary trope". You need to read more science.

We've discussed the science, and you were found wanting. But do post your compelling open letter again, I'm sure everyone wants to read a bunch of ideology motivated bandwagon jumpers who mostly aren't in relevant scientific fields sticking it to Trump by saying they don't believe in biological sex.

GNCQ · 19/03/2021 19:39

@Gottalife

So to sum up this logic.

Men attack women in women's toilets.
Women attack women in women's toilets.
Solution : Ban trans women.

Males have always been banned from women's spaces so banning transwomen isn't exactly a new surprising idea.

It's so simple. Women shouldn't be expected to give up their safe spaces because it makes some male people feel sad.

Zig4zag · 19/03/2021 19:38

Was he identifying as a female at the time.

Wondermule · 19/03/2021 19:38

@Shizuku

Sex is binary. There is an X chromosome, or a Y one. Until a third is discovered, sex is binary.

Wondermule · 19/03/2021 19:37

@Shizuku

Who are male.

Shizuku · 19/03/2021 19:37

@Ereshkigalangcleg

We need to go riiiiight back to the beginning.

Q: Can a biological male be a biological female?
A: No

Until you can get that point off the ground somehow, everything else you say is irrelevant.

Indeed.

Sounds like you haven't progressed beyond the old "sex is a simple binary trope". You need to read more science.
Shizuku · 19/03/2021 19:36

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Men attack women in women's toilets so we should punish all trans women.

Males aren't being "punished" when they can't access a space where female people need privacy and dignity.

But trans women are.
Shizuku · 19/03/2021 19:35

@Ereshkigalangcleg

You can tell more than you can't tell, though.
How would you know given that you wouldn't have a way of knowing how often you don't know?
Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2021 19:35

We need to go riiiiight back to the beginning.

Q: Can a biological male be a biological female?
A: No

Until you can get that point off the ground somehow, everything else you say is irrelevant.

Indeed.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2021 19:33

Men attack women in women's toilets so we should punish all trans women.

Males aren't being "punished" when they can't access a space where female people need privacy and dignity.

Gottalife · 19/03/2021 19:28

So to sum up this logic.

Men attack women in women's toilets.
Women attack women in women's toilets.
Solution : Ban trans women.

Wondermule · 19/03/2021 19:27

@Shizuku

We need to go riiiiight back to the beginning.

Q: Can a biological male be a biological female?
A: No

Until you can get that point off the ground somehow, everything else you say is irrelevant.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/03/2021 19:27

You can tell more than you can't tell, though.

Shizuku · 19/03/2021 19:22

@GNCQ

How do you know you can always tell when someone is trans, given that if you couldn't tell, you wouldn't know that you couldn't tell.

"You can never tell" myth no. 101 in gender ideology.

Myth no. 102: "You can always tell."
Shizuku · 19/03/2021 19:21

@GNCQ

Women attack women in women's spaces therefore let's just let everyone into women's spaces

Myth no. 99 in gender ideology.

Myth no. 100:

Men attack women in women's toilets so we should punish all trans women.

Wondermule · 19/03/2021 19:19

@Shizuku that’s like saying because kids attack kids in the playground, we should let in any old adult as well.

GNCQ · 19/03/2021 19:18

Women attack women in women's spaces therefore let's just let everyone into women's spaces

Myth no. 99 in gender ideology.

GNCQ · 19/03/2021 19:17

How do you know you can always tell when someone is trans, given that if you couldn't tell, you wouldn't know that you couldn't tell.

"You can never tell" myth no. 101 in gender ideology.

Gottalife · 19/03/2021 19:15

[quote Shizuku]Incidentally, what should be done to protect women from women who aren't trans in women's toilets:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2537637/Horrific-injuries-woman-attacked-woman-toilet-cubicle-wrongly-thinking-shed-affair-ex-boyfriend.html[/quote]
Even the attendants aren't safe.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3207822.stm

GNCQ · 19/03/2021 19:13

@outedbyfaircop

What toilet should trans men and butch women use? Why is it easier for cis men to pretend to be trans women than trans men?
They should use the facilities that are designed for their sex.

You'll know a transman is female when they try to straddle the urinals.