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FPFW: ONS concede defeat!

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PandorasMailbox · 17/03/2021 07:09

"We did it. We won. ONS have conceded defeat and will pay our legal costs.The High Court has now sealed the court order that sex in census cannot be self-identified.

Please share the news!"

fairplayforwomen.com/fair-play-for-women-wins-high-court-challenge-against-ons-census/?fbclid=IwAR0tJbErXe1wtBvuwZeNfyqs71OGlGvXQIoERD5FeBGyzoWmCz7DpkbXlT0

Fantastic news Smile

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Xanthangum · 17/03/2021 08:40

Let's not forget that the Minister for the Cabinet Office, that is, Michael Gove is listed on the ruling as an interested party.

Statement likely to be forthcoming soon?

FPFW: ONS concede defeat!
AfternoonToffee · 17/03/2021 08:39

Fantastic news. As already said this is a win for trans rights as well as it means services can accurately be planned.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/03/2021 08:39

Fantastic news! Well done FPFW Thanks

Leafstamp · 17/03/2021 08:38

This is such good news and to answer @toffeebutterpopcorn. I really hope some arses are being kicked!

At the very least I hope they have their tail between their legs.

littlbrowndog · 17/03/2021 08:38

Well done the team

I can’t imagine how hard they had to work in such a short time. 💐💐💐💐

KitchenFairy · 17/03/2021 08:35

This is brilliant.

I’d have loved to be a fly on the wall during the ONS conversations with their legal team, to hear what finally persuaded them to admit defeat.

Well done FPFW!!

I wonder what they will do about our donations, I’m happy for them to keep mine, but I’d also maybe like half of it back if that’s an option, to donate to another cause.

jellyfrizz · 17/03/2021 08:32

YES!!! Well done and thank you for you hard work and perseverance.

Shedbuilder · 17/03/2021 08:31

This is great news, FPFW. So now we have it confirmed in law — sex is biological and cannot be identified out of. Which leaves the GRA looking like the legal fiction that we all know it is.

Has anyone done an FOI to try and find out who it was who encouraged the ONS to adopt this policy? Was Stonewall behind it?

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 17/03/2021 08:29

Yay! Excellent news to start the day! Well done FPFW, and thanks for persevering. This was important. It would have been another big step towards erasure of women as a sex class.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/03/2021 08:28

Great news

Ive no idea what ONS were thinking

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/03/2021 08:27

That's great news to wake up to, and fantastic that costs were awarded!

Hopefully this may herald the beginning of the great unravelling...

toffeebutterpopcorn · 17/03/2021 08:27

Dirty haven’t read the thread - but dies this mean an internal investigation (and relevant staff arse kicking)?

ISaySteadyOn · 17/03/2021 08:27

Oh, that's wonderful news.

Floisme · 17/03/2021 08:26

Thank you so much FPFW.

And how embarrassing for ONS and whoever advised them - I assume I can guess who it was?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 17/03/2021 08:26

Well done - that's one giant leap for WOMEN!

Chersfrozenface · 17/03/2021 08:24

@supercritter

See sex in the census website for template letter to include with your paper copy to further hammer home the point
Excellent. I was inteding to send a letter with my paper copy.
NotMeekNotObedient · 17/03/2021 08:23

Thanks for everyone's hard work fighting this! Great news!

IDanielRadcliffe · 17/03/2021 08:23

Fantastic news!

MoltenLasagne · 17/03/2021 08:20

Hooray! Getting costs awarded too is fantastic 👏

Biscuitsanddoombar · 17/03/2021 08:16

Wooohoooo 🎉🎉🎉🎉

And costs awarded too so extra money for women’s organisations 😁😁😆

I do wonder at what point organisations might start to look at their relationship with Stonewall & what they’re getting out of it....

ChancesWhatChances · 17/03/2021 08:16

🥳🥳🥳

I’m no where near as articulate as the rest of you, so thank you everyone that’s kept us updated (and explained things clearly point for point). It is always appreciated

RoxytheRexy · 17/03/2021 08:14

Fantastic news. I’m so relieved about this. I attended one of the focus groups the ONS did a couple of years ago. They used ‘Cis’ throughout. Made points about privacy. Told me I must have a ‘female gender identity’ if I was a women. Was an absolute shambles.

I wrote to them after and gave them feedback but never heard anything. Got the distinct impression they just ignored it. Very pleased with this outcome

WendyTestaburger · 17/03/2021 08:10

Gosh look at us evil feminists. Celebrating a win that will....

.... record accurate data for trans people as well as for women, helping ensure vital services can be planned.

BeetyAxe · 17/03/2021 08:10

Woohoo that’s excellent.👏👏👏