Multiple women murdered in Atlanta

Just came to ask posters who're talking about sex work, prostitutes and libfem (I'm none of those and have no idea what libfem really means anyway); asking where they are to condemn this; wondering if they'll still say sex work is work or explain this type of shit as part of the job risks -what exactly are you saying?

Are you saying that these women wouldn't have been killed if they were not into sex work? (I'm not personally saying they are, I'm asking if that's what you mean).

Are you saying that being into sex work gets you killed in a mass shooting and it's naturally part of the job risk so you should also think about it before going into sex work?

Were people in the world trade center into sex work? Were children at the schools into sex work? What about those people in the mall? Those in the bar/club? Were they all sex workers? Did they not all die in the hands of mass murderers and shootings?

I don't think this argument of 'sex work isn't work because it could get you killed' is what you should be using here, it's covert victim blaming. Anyone can be killed doing any sort of work.

The blame is solely on this white male who committed murder because he could.

@PotholeHellhole

This last paragraph in the HuffPost.

“Why do you think Asian women have finally started speaking up?” people have asked me.

We’ve been speaking up all along. You just haven’t been listening.

agreed 🌸

Racism and misogyny and a culture saturated with pornography makes for a hideous mix.

www.nytimes.com/2021/03/22/opinion/atlanta-shooting-women-violence.html?referringSource=articleShare

@lionheart god...that is just awful.

This is truly grim but well worth reading:

www.huffpost.com/entry/asian-women-racism-shooting-atlanta_n_6053ad94c5b66a80f4e66219

'Men have often told me what they “know” about my body. They swear that my pussy is tighter than a white woman’s and that they’d love to “stretch it out.” They tell me that I haven’t known real pleasure because Asia doesn’t have real men. They say they want to taste me because chocolate nipples are sweeter than pink ones.

I’ve been offered money for sex because “that’s all Filipino women are good for anyway.” I’ve had men try to lift up my skirt “to see if your c**t is as slanted as your eyes.” I’ve been called racial and sexual slurs until I started crying, only to find that the person harassing me enjoyed my tears.

Many of the men are aggressive, but some of them have tried to woo me — at first. They beg me to whisper ancient Chinese secrets in their ear, vow to treat me like an empress, offer to lay cherry blossoms at my feet. Until I turn them down. “Asian women are ugly anyway,” they say.

The hypersexualization of Asian women plays a huge part in the violence we face. Knowing how violent men can be when they’ve been rejected makes me think about the shooter, who said he saw his victims as a “temptation” that needed to be removed. '

There's been a mass shooting in Boulder and so this mass murder of women will now be relegated to yesterday's news. No one will learn anything and the rise of misogynistic mass shooting will continue.

Multiple murders don't always hit the front pages. A young lady and her two children went missing from Bristol, and tragically her body and that of her baby have been found in the home of a man in Dundee, he's been arrested for murder. Her older daughter was found 'safe'. It isn't even the top story in Scotland.

Maybe he would've eventually hurt another race of women. Who knows, but his racism is very clear - that Asian women are the responsible for his supposed sex addiction, while ignoring say strip clubs full of all women, or porn which has all race of women.

I think it was more racially motivated.

@PotholeHellhole

I agree it's also misogyny but to only one race of women. So it's even more repulsive.

I am beyond angry. I don't care if he had a sex addiction. That is not even approaching a reason to target and kill Asian women. His poor victims and their poor families. I am outraged but not surprised that the media seems to be ignoring misogyny being a factor in his crimes and motive.

If he had only a 'sex addiction' as the murderer claims, you would think he would target the massive strip club industry in America, where some of the workers go home with some men.

I find this mass shooting more to do to race and the murderer is trying to make it about his 'addiction'

@SimonJT I am starting to wonder why you have repeatedly commented on the thread about a misogynistic mass shooting in Feminism Chat and have studiously avoided mentioning misogyny.

No one here is under any illusion that it isn't racist. My personal theory is that he is probably a man who doesn't see the racism in it because fetishistic Asian sex worker tropes don't register as racist for these kinds of men and he just chose to murder the sex workers he saw as 'tempting'.

But to come back and comment that it was on the media seems like a dick move. It was on the BBC but not heavily promoted and the commentary has been parlous compared to other mass shootings. Can you at least acknowledge that this was a misogynistic hate crime?

It was reported on BBC radio (certainly was on Greg James’ show), the BBC news page and BBC news TV broadcast.

Mainstream Media, including BBC in particular, is heavily censored and controlled when it comes to anything to do with women.

I cannot believe that TV journalists are completely unaware of so many issues, so it must be down to control.

It was on R4 on the morning. I mentioned it to DS (they are having a huge debate at school on women’s safety) and he hadn’t heard about it.

I cannot comprehend why this isn't in the news. To be really crass, the "story" has a lot of active topics included in it - racial targeting, targeting of women, incel-dom, police sympathy for the perpetrator instead of the victims, police links to anti-Asian things. Then of course the nature of the murderer being so premeditated and moving across locations.

How in the hell have I still only seen this because of social media?

I wonder if those idiots universities who are suggesting prostitution as a way to make student loans stretch are showing things like this under the ‘job risks’?

This story just hasn’t hit the news like I would have expected (and yes there around 300 hundred shootings in America every day) and there was also a family shooting on the same day. Neither stories really made headlines. If this has been at a political or ‘rights’ rally then it would have been - Biden & co would have been on the tv (not sure if they commented)...

However it does shine a light on policing in the area. Is trafficking mostly ignored or not? Is there systemic and protected abuse of women (particularly women of colour) going on? Were these women repeatedly and systematically abused?
Like the advocate said above which type of "Spas" are open for 24 hours? Of course Law enforcement will know. Atlanta has one of the biggest film industries outside of Hollywood and hosts many entertainment events. It's nickname is "Hotlanta" they traffic extra people in for "events" and it's largely ignored just like Vegas 😥. These women deserve justice, it's whether they will get it or the powers that be will try to preserve the "reputation" of Atlanta.
patch.com/georgia/atlanta/not-sale-massage-parlors-flourish-georgia

I mentioned trafficking earlier. It doesn't make any difference to the perceived 'worthiness' of the victims. As far as I'm concerned any woman involved in sex work is completely worthy of protection. Too many are seen as the sacrifice our sex makes to male violence so more privileged women can avoid some of it.

However it does shine a light on policing in the area. Is trafficking mostly ignored or not? Is there systemic and protected abuse of women (particularly women of colour) going on? Were these women repeatedly and systematically abused?