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Reclaim These Streets have been captured.

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stumbledin · 16/03/2021 17:55

It was inevitable of course. Whatever the original intentions of the local women who set up the facebook event page, given the huge response they have had, it was just to tempting for those who always want to be in control not to take over.

So now there is a Reclaim These Streets facebook group www.facebook.com/groups/282187170119807/ which of course loads of women have joined. And although it is meant to be about sharing your experiences, your ideas, your whatever, turns out the group admins will not let your voice be heard if you dont express yourself in an approved way.

No need to detail what that is, but once again the vanguard of well schooled stonewall students are definitely in charge.

And of course this also applies to the now in excess of half a million pounds raisde for women's projects. It has been decreed - by knee jerk tweet that only trans inclusive groups will get women.

Tough luck on those providing women only services as legally allowed under the EA. So rape crisis helplines, women refuges, many BME groups will be deemed not worthy of financial support.

How come there are never enough mumsnetters out and about on facebook or wherever to capture groups? Sad

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Shaggervalley · 28/03/2021 04:24

*child poverty

Shaggervalley · 28/03/2021 04:22

Portsmouth RTS.
This has really upset me. I didn't manage to go today due to work but my 14 year old DD went with her pal. She's aware of what happened to Sarah and there has been several attacks on women and girls in Portsmouth last year and a couple of women murdered. She had disclosed to me last week that men in cars catcall at her and her pals ,making comments about their breasts etc ,when they come out of school,so she wanted to go to this. She came back early saying that a woman was standing up at the steps of Guildhall Steps and that men were shouting Terf at some women. So her and her pal just came home . She said "think they kinda missed the point ,mum ". Yes indeed DD.
I'm horrified at what happened to those women and I wish I had been there to defend them . What an absolute farce that women cannot go to a protest for women without getting threatened and attacked by men. The woman councillor mentioned allegedly goading the men on ,is our local Councillor . An absolute useless waste of time who is only interested in TWAW . Our ward is a deprived ward with almost 50% and this person spends her time going on about trans rights and how evil T*rfs are . Yes we have complained about her ,especially when she had a link to Pornhub on her Twitter page for over a year . Nothing was done . I'm so disgusted that this happened to these women and if anyone knows them ,please can you tell them ,I would love to speak to them as a Gc woman . I don't know alot of people here and would love to offer them my support . I'm not on twitter but on here most days ,if they wish to pm me . I'm so angry .

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stumbledin · 28/03/2021 00:57

Have read the entrometritis images above.

Seriously, you can be trans and still appreciate that biological women are going to have different biological issues than those born male. Honestly as someone who had some contact with stoned hippies, am beginning to think that that waht they garbled made more sense than these performative "I'm on the right side" lemmings.

You would like to think outsiders reading their page would think who are these airheads, but no doubt their parents are saying aren't you wonderful.

But ... am glad to see that they still see mumsnet as a threat that is organising to whackamole them.

I am not on twitter but almost feel like signing up to post some of these anti woman drivel they just cant stop themselves saying.

Also saw a post from a woman saying she was resubmitting a post because admins had told her to re-write her original post, and she has been attacked again. So she is now asking them why as white women they are so hostile to Black women expressing themselves.

Wonder how long that thread will last.

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stumbledin · 28/03/2021 00:47

This is a slightly longer account and video of the RTS event in Portsmouth.

"Today my friend was physically assaulted by a large group, I was pushed and shoved. Both verbally abused, threatened with physical violence by a very large male, told to die, told we are not women, we are TERFs and all TERFS must die. We don't count as women because we are TERFS. We were accused of White supremicy, called nazi scum, accused of being racist white supremist, told to die, threatened by a VERY aggressive man 'get down before I take you down' pushed, shoved, pulled, my friend had her possessions taken from her and put in a bin. Angry masses of people approaching us, shouting at us whilst being very threatening. Almost fell down the guildhall stone stairs or rather dragged down them. An entire crowed chanting 'fuck off TERFS' Saw my friend be physically assaulted and hurt whilst a crowed were chanting 'Fuck off TERFS'

Why you ask? Because we dared to stand on the guildhall steps and hold a flag with the definition of woman printed on it at a reclaim the streets protest. That was our crime, holding a flag in a public space with the dictionary definition of woman."

twitter.com/GenderCriticle/status/1375918091566190593

So although the male voice is dominant women are also being hostile.

And individual male has posted about how sucessful the event was with over 250 atttending. Many of whom I suspect wouldnot be aware of the issue.

Ideally a letter to the local media would be best. But can see those being pushed and shoved wouldn't want to have their names made public.

I've looked at the local RTS Portsmouth facebook page and it just says in earlier posts that terfs aren't welcome.

So doubt they will acknowledge their was even an issue. (Events aren't centrally organised its up to each local group.) I wonder if all 50+ local RTS groups are like this. Sad

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ArcheryAnnie · 28/03/2021 00:27

Yeah, well, we aren't the ones supporting men who attack women, while pretending to be against men attacking women.

I know who I'd rather be aligned with.

AngeloMysterioso · 27/03/2021 23:59

There’s a thread currently running in the group about endometriosis (phrased by the OP as “ I’d like to raise a discussion around endometriosis and the general treatment of people born with a female reproductive system that present with pain of any kind.”

I’m sure you can imagine what happened next...

(names and profile pictures have been hidden to protect the innocent/ignorant)

One brave women did point out that this is a women’s health issue... guess what happened to her comment and its replies?

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Foolingaround · 27/03/2021 23:34

@SunsetBeetch he seems to constantly get away with bullying women.

SunsetBeetch · 27/03/2021 22:29

@ArcheryAnnie

There's also an account of them being pushed and shoved, their stuff nicked from them and put in a bin, and men threatening them with more violence because they "aren't women, but TERFs".

And silence from Reclaim These Streets.

Because some violence against women is not only OK, it's to be encouraged, presumably.

Wow. What a shower of shite.
SunsetBeetch · 27/03/2021 22:28

[quote Foolingaround]twitter.com/northantschief/status/1375825631049613320?s=21[/quote]
Astounding. Has he handed over his account to his 11 year old son?

Foolingaround · 27/03/2021 22:20

Anyone seen the CC Northampton tweets today? Really shocking.

ArcheryAnnie · 27/03/2021 22:09

There's also an account of them being pushed and shoved, their stuff nicked from them and put in a bin, and men threatening them with more violence because they "aren't women, but TERFs".

And silence from Reclaim These Streets.

Because some violence against women is not only OK, it's to be encouraged, presumably.

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 27/03/2021 22:06

From Twitter: twitter.com/filia_charity/status/1375836633157750788?s=21

SunsetBeetch · 27/03/2021 22:00

Can somebody link to the footage, please?

ValancyRedfern · 27/03/2021 21:44

I've just seen the footage. Really chilling, but not at all surprising. These young women genuinely believe it is evil and wrong to define a woman as an adult human female.

SunsetBeetch · 27/03/2021 19:44

@ArcheryAnnie

Two women have been attacked at a Reclaim These Streets thing in Portsmouth. I watched a video where all I could hear was a very deep voice yelling "TERF TERF FUCK OFF TERF", and not the woman speaking. I wish I could say I was surprised, but...
Horrible but no, not surprising.
ArcheryAnnie · 27/03/2021 19:36

Two women have been attacked at a Reclaim These Streets thing in Portsmouth. I watched a video where all I could hear was a very deep voice yelling "TERF TERF FUCK OFF TERF", and not the woman speaking. I wish I could say I was surprised, but...

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stumbledin · 27/03/2021 16:03

Yes I'd forgotten that once blocked you cant even see the page, which I found when I got blocked.

I have access to facebook from a volunteer account I can sign in with, so have been following.

I sort of knew one comment I posted would get me blocked, at least on mumsnet you get a deletion, so all the positive info I had tried to add in the beginning just went as well. A sort of scorched earth approach.

But how people who have only ever liked posts and never commented can be blocked seems way beyond rational.

No wonder they say they are so busy as admins when it seems there are only 2 new posts a day. They must be weedy out the upfront GC commentators, but carefully comprising lists of any who liked a post by someone blocked. It must take them hours. Maybe they went to Stasi training school!

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AngeloMysterioso · 27/03/2021 11:09

This is why I literally haven’t commented or responded to anything. I’m only there to sort of keep an eye on what they’re doing so I can report back to Radfem Reclaim and Mumsnet

Feelinghothothottoday · 27/03/2021 10:52

And being blocked means you can’t even see the page it is that extreme. Very odd normally you get told off warned and three strikes then out.

Feelinghothothottoday · 27/03/2021 10:50

@RachelRoth

I liked a post last night highlighting places for abused women to seek help. The one that didn't centre men. Ive liked comments i agree with. Ive sent love emoji to comments where women deserve support. Ive signed the petitions. Ive not added any comments at all that have been at all controversial to any post. Im now blocked.
That’s exactly what happened to me. Unless you actual say or like posts TWAW then you are deleted. I never commented. I supported women and liked posts.
Feelinghothothottoday · 27/03/2021 10:48

The problem is they can’t say men. As soon as they say male violence the question is asked who do you define as a man and then it all kicks off again and the admins have to close the debate down.

RachelRoth · 27/03/2021 10:46

I liked a post last night highlighting places for abused women to seek help. The one that didn't centre men. Ive liked comments i agree with. Ive sent love emoji to comments where women deserve support. Ive signed the petitions. Ive not added any comments at all that have been at all controversial to any post. Im now blocked.

Thecatonthemat · 27/03/2021 10:13

Yes, the lack of a mention even of the people that are actually doing the violence abuse and harassment is really staring us in the face. There is lot that I’m sure many of us would agree with but yes, it is kind of waiting for others to do it. The initial impetus two weeks ago was really powerful because it was women together. This seems to have been lost, particularly when some of us are silenced.

ThisIsSimplyBeyond · 27/03/2021 09:38

I'm still in it, I fly below the radar :)