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Identifying as a witch as a feminist statement

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BilboBercow · 16/03/2021 13:55

Is that a bit bonkers? I've been thinking about it for a while, I really enjoy a bit of woo although I'm not what I'd describe as a believer in magic.

I'm going through a period right now where I'm particularly angry with the patriarchy, trying to deal with an abusive ex, outraged at what I see as the escalation of femicide during the pandemic, I'm also listening to a podcast on Scottish witch trials and I particularly identify with these (mosty) women who were executed by the state for being a bit different. Scotland tried over 4k people for witchcraft, higher per capita than anywhere in Europe.

Has anyone done this, or considered it?

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EsmesRedPetticoat · 16/03/2021 17:27

Ha ha duffmcstockings there is an awful lot of anagram in me too! More so when I was younger.

duffmcstockings · 16/03/2021 17:08

Sadly I identify most as Magrat BlushHmm

alkanet · 16/03/2021 17:06

Lammergeier

I'm pagan too. When the gender war is getting a bit much I indulge in a spot of moon bathing. Full moon is best, and I think of all the women throughout the centuries that may have stood in troubled times gazing at her face. It gives me a sense of connection, but that could just be because I'm an old romantic😊

Drinkingallthewine · 16/03/2021 16:59

I'd identify as a Discworld witch. Bags of common sense those ladies have.

ThisIsSimplyBeyond · 16/03/2021 16:55

(and is what shall go on my census for religion)

ThisIsSimplyBeyond · 16/03/2021 16:54

Dianic afaik (at least in the women I know) has not yet capitulated. Very much not so.

Justhadathought · 16/03/2021 16:48

www.rainbowcircle.co.uk/rainbowcircle.html

There are lots of camps and gatherings that celebrate the natural earth cycles, healing, dance etc - you can attend - once the lock-down is over.

Justhadathought · 16/03/2021 16:46

You don't need to 'identify as a witch'; you could just investigate herbalism and so on. Keep a 'Wemoon' diary, if you still menstruate....get in touch with your own rhythms. Learn the tarot - it can be a really rich source of symbolism - and so on.....

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 16/03/2021 16:45

ISn't it good, Bilbo? I thought I knew a fair bit about the witches (some shockers happened near where I grew up so I heard the stories as a child) but, it's so thorough, I've learned loads.

Makes me angry.

BilboBercow · 16/03/2021 16:42

@viva it's Witches of Scotland I'm listening to too!

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 16/03/2021 16:03

I've been listening to this podcast about the women who were tortured and executed in Scotland for being, well, mostly, women with opinions and skills. www.witchesofscotland.com/podcast

Well worth a listen, and yes, I'd LOVE to be in Granny Weatherwax's gang.

Witchlight · 16/03/2021 16:02

And the original wise women would have laughed their heads off at TWAW, as they were .....well wise.

Witchlight · 16/03/2021 15:59

In the very old days, pre Christianity, There was a lot of faith in Mother Earth and wise women and female elders held significant power and were respected members of the community. When Christianity came, the old symbols and gods were re-written and co-opted into Christianity and demonised (literally in some cases) and women’s power-bases were stripped away.

So identifying as a witch could definitely be a feminist statement!

StillWeRise · 16/03/2021 15:59

there's a witch thread going in the philosophy/religion section here, I don't know if they think TWAW it mostly seems to be appreciating nature when I've looked

Worldgonecrazy · 16/03/2021 15:51

Are the dianics still holding out? I hope so.

CatChant · 16/03/2021 15:49

@EsmesRedPetticoat

I’m in. I’m identifying as Granny Weatherwax bit with Nanny Ogg's earthy humour. They wouldn’t have stood for this nonsense!
DD always says I'm Granny Weatherwax crossed with Nanny Ogg so I'm in too. Grin
Pandoraslastchance · 16/03/2021 15:31

@BahHumbygge

I'd love to join a Dianic coven, most of the rest of the pagan groupings have gone full gender woo-woo sadly. Funny for a belief system that worships nature in its immanent state, they don't understand basic reproductive biology and how life sustains itself Grin
Same here. All my wiccan/earthy groups are now believing in twaw and are so unbelievabley woke and vocal about it. I feel quite alone again.
teawamutu · 16/03/2021 15:18

@EsmesRedPetticoat

I’m in. I’m identifying as Granny Weatherwax bit with Nanny Ogg's earthy humour. They wouldn’t have stood for this nonsense!
Basically my lifetime ambition. I'm in.
BahHumbygge · 16/03/2021 15:12

I'd love to join a Dianic coven, most of the rest of the pagan groupings have gone full gender woo-woo sadly. Funny for a belief system that worships nature in its immanent state, they don't understand basic reproductive biology and how life sustains itself Grin

Lammergeier · 16/03/2021 15:12

Count me in, I'm a practising pagan.

Beowulfa · 16/03/2021 15:00

OP, I read an interesting book on this recently; Tracy Borman's "Witches: A Tale Of Sorcery, Scandal & Seduction" which looks at the social and political backdrop to the anti-witch frenzy in Europe.

How dangerous it was to be female,poor, old and unattractive. Even wealthy women lived in fear of the accusation; I think it was part of Anne Boleyn's trial.

Shedbuilder · 16/03/2021 14:52

@DaisiesandButtercups

All woman centric groups, organisations and workplaces were top of the list to be targeted by queer theorists and gender ideologues to ensure inclusion and kindness (submission, disempowerment) in the very organisations which otherwise would have been most likely to resist the new belief system. There has also been a tendency to prioritise the removal of boundaries from woman centric groups and organisations for a variety of other reasons which some will know, others will guess and the rest will need to research on other platforms.

There are GC feminists who identify strongly with witches of the past and refer to themselves as witches. I have also seen the “this witch won’t burn” t shirts, didn’t J K Rowling sport one at one point?

This. Where I used to live, one TW targeted every woman's group and organisation and got onto the management committees and boards of several. When last heard of they were on the women's committee of a trade union and a police advisory group. It felt at the time as if it was strategically planned and when I said so people laughed at me, but there's been a concerted, planned attempt to destroy women's networks.
Defmy · 16/03/2021 14:50

You either are one or you're not.

DaisiesandButtercups · 16/03/2021 14:44

All woman centric groups, organisations and workplaces were top of the list to be targeted by queer theorists and gender ideologues to ensure inclusion and kindness (submission, disempowerment) in the very organisations which otherwise would have been most likely to resist the new belief system. There has also been a tendency to prioritise the removal of boundaries from woman centric groups and organisations for a variety of other reasons which some will know, others will guess and the rest will need to research on other platforms.

There are GC feminists who identify strongly with witches of the past and refer to themselves as witches. I have also seen the “this witch won’t burn” t shirts, didn’t J K Rowling sport one at one point?

EsmesRedPetticoat · 16/03/2021 14:40

I’m in. I’m identifying as Granny Weatherwax bit with Nanny Ogg's earthy humour. They wouldn’t have stood for this nonsense!

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