Can we have a thread about men who DO get this?

I think a really difficult aspect of this is that so many of the men who proclaim themselves to 'get it' are actually total arseholes - beardy wokebros more interested in telling women why they're doing feminism wrong than actually helping.

Does Another Angry Voice 'get it' I've seen him go after women who even vaguely mention anything pro women/GC in the comments often. He's really quite nasty with women at times, along with his sniggering woke army, he'll even make false statements about whoever he's berating.

I've noticed that while younger women in the arts and media almost always have pronouns in their Twitter bio, some even leading with them, with men in the same fields, unless they're LGBTQ+, it's very rare. I think far more men 'get it', if we're talking about gender ideology, than young women: they've certainly come under less pressure from TRAs to knuckle under and 're-educate themselves'.

I think that the majority of men do understand the issues, however the aggressive language alienates as do generalisations . Most people male and female are concerned with the everyday issues or working, sorting out children, family issues, finance etc - they are just go about their life. I also think a large proportion of women do the same , our lives are more influenced by our immediate family and workplace. Most makes are not aggressive or sexist they just get on with their life - but given some of the suggestions eg curfew at 6, and language saying that women fear all men I think that will be less inclined to engage in any conversation about these issues

All of this is new to my Nigel, but he instinctively "gets it". His suggestion for the census was "what were you born with:" and a box for F (fanny) or W (willy).

More seriously, I work in a male-dominated STEM subject and this week the (male) president of our student soc sent out a message of solidarity to all female staff and students, detailing the ways men could pro-actively amend their behaviour and call out their peers.

Ricky Gervais and John Clees definitely get it. It is good when high profile people get it and speak about it. I am just another random bloke, so if I talk about the issues or contact sports organisations to question them about their policies (British Cycling) they can just brush me off and not worry about it. They can't do it that easily with a known face.

My male DP 'gets it' and is a great ally. He calls out other men's behaviour, challenges misogyny and discusses issues with his male friends. I'm so proud of him for that, especially when I see so many other men (on the left) staying silent or engaging in anti-women rhetoric.

Obviously he doesn't have the lived experience of being female, but he absolutely recognises this means he should listen to and support women when we talk about our reality. Sadly it's also really opened his eyes to how many of his friends are part of the problem.

Oh of course not. He can’t ever get it in the way I or any other woman can.

But he gets it to the core of his person, and that’s good enough for me.

I don't think any men totally get it. I'm not having a pop here - how can they get it? It would be like me claiming I get what it's like to be black.

I think there are decent men who listen and who take it seriously. I'd include James Kirkup, Jonny Best and Tom Farr. The last two have posted here in the past so I assume they're ok about being named. And James Kirkup has regularly acknowledged that he doesn't get a fraction of the grief that women do.

My DH gets it, on a very deep level.

He also got the full horror of the gender bollocks long before I did.

I also remember the bloke everyone was scared off, once stopping me at the end of the street, saying please trust me and hold my hand.
I walked with him past a group of ten boys drunk in a garage, all looking in shock as we walked past. At the end of the road he squeezed my hand said have a nice day, but please avoid this area it's not safe.

When I first moved to a city, in my early twenties, I walked home late one night. The walk skirted some rough areas and a street with numerous brothels. This very drunk man came up to me and would not stop hassling me. This other man (locally well known big issue seller) came up to the man hassling me and said "can you lend me 10p for a pint of milk" over and over till the guy went away. Then he told me he was going to follow me home so the guy didn't come back but at a distance so I didn't feel I had to talk to him, or worry about what might happen.

He got it.

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Colin Wright

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I just had to laugh, my male friend gets being careful about frightening people when they are out of their comfort zone, but his Trans comment had me roaring with laughter.
You just had your tea and dessert comes out, pie with ice cream and whipped cream and sprinkles, you take a spoonful and it's steak and kidney.

Wings Over Scotland

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There's someone I follow on Facebook and Twitter called "Another Angry Voice"
He actually used to post here on the MN "Politics" board, but got banned for promoting his own blog. I won't share his real identity, most people have never heard of him but he has a solid following.

He completely gets it.

My DH gets it too. I think it's actually made him quite sad. He's reflected on his own behaviour and we had a conversation after all the #metoo stuff was happening and I asked him if he'd ever made a woman feel uncomfortable or obligated and he rather uncomfortably said he probably had.
He has both sons and daughters, but sees that he worries more about the girls safety than his son.
He's querying with the Labour party (he's a member) why they've assumed his gender when he supplied them with his sex. I think sport was when the penny started to really drop about the inequalities.
Once you start seeing it, you can't unsee it.

My DH says he gets it but I don't think he truly does or he'd be raging, as I am.