New to this - question about reconciling left leaning politics...

The importance has to be truth and internal coherence not retro-fitting to fixed ideologies or partisan political leanings. There can be a great liberation in that.

I think a GC view cuts across political divides to a large degree because its concerned with reality and the truth.

Ouch. I had never seen that in full before and how he handled it face to face apart from talking over her a bit was done really professionally.
No justification for his 'private' reaction really having defused her 'wrong think' so well.

Labour lost that election and have seemingly learned nothing from that. They are now telling women their sex-based rights don't count.

That was indeed a painful moment!

That really is quite an unforgettable moment. 😂

flyingfoxkins

This was Gordon Brown's unforgettable moment, when he did actually go out and talk to people. An ordinary hard working woman who was quite civil to Brown, despite him trying to talk over her.

So identify with lots of the posts on here. Would have described myself as a socialist green feminist. Have never voted Tory and never would. However, the Green Party and the Labour party seem to have abandoned me on issues that affect women. Ivy Twines, I definitely agree about the importance of social and economic justice needing to be at the centre of Labours agenda and I dont assume thinking these things are important are "brexity" and ignorant. I`m just reading "Povery Safari" by Darren McGarvey, which makes an explanation of why working class people are so pissed off and disenfranchised and its an interesting read. The Labour party should take note and actually go out and talk to people.

GC feminist

I personally think it's not great to get too attached to a "GC feminist" label.

Feminism by its very definition of centring women and not being constrained and limited to by gender/ sex stereotypes is critical of gender.

Feminism, that which centres females, is for women's liberation, is anti gender stereotypes.

The term is becoming politicised in a way it doesn't need to be, and is now not helpful for discussions about the needs and rights of women and girls.

The 'Right': Sex is real. Gender is real.

No. What a sweeping judgement. I despair of what the left has become. Which is why I had to move away from them.

Are you seriously suggesting that is part of the policy of any mainstream, right wing party?

You , (general you) laugh at trans activists if they adopt a "no true Scotsman" argument to excuse unacceptable behaviour by trans people- yet the same argument is being used here to excuse unacceptable behaviour by leftists.

I've been left leaning most of my life. The reason I care so much about this ideology is the harm it is doing to the young. This 20 minutes from Kellie Jay articulates the issues perfectly.

Being gender critical is not attached to being left wing. I am not left wing. I am gender critical. My beliefs / knowledge and understanding are not attached to group think politics.

I am definitely GC because I am left wing. I can’t imagine caring so much if I wasn’t.

How do you reconcile this if you are left leaning but don't buy in to TWAW and you don't think being a women is something you can choose

Follow the logic, not the political party. Make up your own mind rather than participating in group think. For everything.

"Same here. It was labour's treatment of Anne Ruzylo that opened my eyes to what was going on in the Labour Party."

That was a disgusting episode. I wonder where the person responsible for that has gone.

PotholeHellhole

"It really struck me that GC/radfem twitter was up in arms about working class children going hungry, and sharing stories of how they'd been on FSM as children themselves, and meanwhile the focus of North West Labour Party twitter was... how much they hated Rosie Duffield."

Exactly, talk about taking their eyes off the ball, that was an open goal, but they didn't even take a shot at it.
Somebody will have to remind me, when was the last time the Labour party ever got involved with social issues, you know, the nitty, gritty things which affect the poorest in society, because the last year has negatively impacted the poor like no other time.
It took a young footballer, Marcus Rashford to question and pressurise the government over the way they mishandled their response to meals for children.

I won't be voting Labour because of the way they view GC women

Same here. It was labour's treatment of Anne Ruzylo that opened my eyes to what was going on in the Labour Party.

More generally, I've seen many Left-leaning people, especially in the Arts, bullied off Twitter or cowed into silence by pile-ons. The Arts are very vulnerable to pile-ons because of the way activists can bombard sites like Amazon or IMDB with negative reviews. We've seen similar things happen with bullying to control content at The Guardian, The Stage and even Boyz. There's a great Radio 4 programme, the Purity Spiral, that particularly focuses on this in the arts and with creatives, and is on BBC Sounds.

I'm left wing and GC too, I won't be voting Labour because of the way they view GC women (would never vote Tory). It bothers me that I no longer have a party to vote for but I will stay true to myself and my beliefs.

I'm left wing and GC :)
Placemarking.

Re Marxism, this is a great site by some current young left leaning woman centring feminists:

onthewomanquestion.com/