Cressida Dick

In my opinion she should have gone after being responsible for the Met Police unit that murdered John Charles de Menezes in cold blood.
Instead, she was promoted.
This is not about blaming a woman leader, this is about holding a shit leader to account.

A cop is a cop is a cop.

No friend to women. No friend to the working class.

Neither are Sisters Uncut; apologists for male attackers of women and children . And as for supporting working class😂

The vigil was cancelled by the organisers and they asked people not to come. People out to cause trouble and agitate with their horrible chanting took over and invited others. The original organiser said Cressida Dick should not resign.

It was her leadership team that directly intervened to ban the vigil. And if she wasn’t in control of gold command on Saturday night then she is incompetent.

"Did Sisters Uncut (or even members of) create Reclaim These Streets? I hadn’t heard that until now."

I don't know that either, neither group had any business doing what they did at the weekend.

Did Sisters Uncut (or even members of) create Reclaim These Streets? I hadn’t heard that until now.

"Sisters Uncut (who created 'Reclaim These Streets' - note the slightly different name) - have an anti carceral agenda, and a history of supporting TW who have assaulted women. Even those who have been imprisoned for serious sexual offenses."

Yes, they're vile. This issue isn't helping at all. They had no business whatsoever hijacking this vigil.

And for what it's worth, Gold Commander for this was Matt Twist, Deputy Assistant Commissioner.

I'm surprised you didn't know that @Bluntness100 before coming here to throw around assumptions about who would be for this operation and calling posters "batshit" for "assumptions" they never made!

I wondered why the News coverage suddenly stopped interviewing sisters uncut

Probably because, if they bother to mention Sarah Everard at all, they keep saying/posting things which would prejudice the case against the man charged with her killing.

Sisters Uncut (who created 'Reclaim These Streets' - note the slightly different name) - have an anti carceral agenda, and a history of supporting TW who have assaulted women. Even those who have been imprisoned for serious sexual offenses.

"And she would not have been gold. Or anywhere close to it. It’s batshit to assume otherwise."

No, she wasn't, I know that for a fact. I Nobody is "assuming otherwise", however, one of the main aspects of the post of commissioner is accountability for the force. She is personally answerable for their actions. It isn't "batshit" to expect her to do her job

"And I personally don’t believe, because someone who works for you, several levels below, makes a shit decision, means you get fired for it. We can agree to disagree on that."

Sorry what? Agree to disagree? I've never said she should lose her job. I haven't given my personal stance on that, and for what it's worth, on this occasion I don't think she should resign.

But all of this "standing by her teams" drivel and not "throwing them under the bus" talk is simply nonsense and completely disregards everything that the post of commissioner entails.

Under the circumstances and with this particular suspect she should have been Gold.
Anything less is, imo, dereliction of duty of at the very least shirking responsibility.
I think I'd feel the same if it was a male.

The point is there would have been a commander in charge on thr night who called it. And who kept calling it. She would not have been on the other end of the phone making the decisions that night. It would have been a chief inspector or superintendent. Maybe even a chief superintendent, but unlikely, and still five or six levels below her.

It would have been a gold silver bronze command structure in place. And she would not have been gold. Or anywhere close to it. It’s batshit to assume otherwise.

And I personally don’t believe, because someone who works for you, several levels below, makes a shit decision, means you get fired for it. We can agree to disagree on that.

"I also don’t think she should loose her Job because she won’t have been directly in control on the night, someone way below her but still very senior would have been calling it."

That's not how it works at all. With rank comes responsibility, she's answerable for the whole force. In fact she's directly accountable and answerable to the public as part of her post.

The imagined "very senior yet way below" you've just made up doesn't exist. The commissioner was very much involved in "calling it" as you put it.

Whether she should "lose her job" or not is another matter.

I also don’t think she should loose her Job because she won’t have been directly in control on the night, someone way below her but still very senior would have been calling it. There would have been a commander in charge.

Right now she’s standing by her teams. Which I get. She’s not throwing them under the bus.

However I think the night was handled terribly. The officers look like they are proactively assaulting women. The decision to move to physical enforcement was a terrible one. There was no way for them to bodily remove 1500 women, there was simply not enough coppers and never could have been.

Once you start trying to physically remove the women it’s always going to become a nightmare scenario, always. And you can see officers kneeing women, straddling them, elbowing them, women bloodied and hurt.

The optics of a vigil for Sarah and about violence against women to then see the police demonstrate violence to them is just appalling.

Whomever was calling it should habe thought, ok, there’s 1500 we can’t remove that many and it’s going to look shit, so let’s police is sensitively, ensure social distancing where possible snd keep it peaceful. Hand out masks if required.

Not decide, right start forcibly handcuffing them and dragging them out.

There’s a lot of questions to be answered on this one in terms of the terrible decisions that were made on the night, and saying they were breaching Covid so a risk to public safety isn’t good enough. Public safety was not protected by the physical abuse these women suffered. In fact it got worse, because women were trying to protect one another so getting closer.

Sisters Uncut are vile. They actively support violence against women.

She is the highest ranking FEMALE police officer.
You can be the highest-ranking female anything and still not be good for women. (Cf. Thatcher, May.) Simply being female is crap, “girl boss” feminism that does a disservice to women.

Towns and cities other than London and Brighton managed peaceful vigils.

The large gathering at Clapham Common was entirely predictable. I could see it coming, just looking briefly at social media and the publicity around Catherine Cambridge's visit.

The Police intelligence unit(s) must have seen it coming.

So the question remains: why these particular tactics? They were wrong for the event.

I am not keen on witch-hunting Cressida Dick and Priti Patel, because I do worry about chucking even more misogyny around. Sadiq Khan and Boris Johnson have responsibilities too. But, Cressida Dick does have to answer for those policing tactics.

I wondered why the News coverage suddenly stopped interviewing sisters uncut
Probably because, if they bother to mention Sarah Everard at all, they keep saying/posting things which would prejudice the case against the man charged with her killing. And the next day staged another not socially distanced protest about “women murdered by the state” including in this a transgender paedophile who died by suicide. So showing their full agenda pretty quickly. I actually think the more sunlight that SU get the better so everyone can see how plainly batshit they are (IMO) to be honest, but I understand that the media has to avoid contempt of court.

I think Cressida Dick should stay. I’d appreciate a lot more open explanation of policing strategies and methods though because the public are reacting to dramatic images without adequate explanation.

I want her to stay, and not just because she’s a woman (though that’s part of it).

I want her to stay because I think she’s experienced and has overall done a decent job in office, and because I hate the culture that sacks people the moment anything goes wrong.

THAT SAID, I think last week was handled dreadfully from start to finish, and I would like her to work with all parties and report back to the public what has been learned and what will change.

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Zealously.