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Jordan Peterson

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Wilsonwilson · 15/03/2021 02:10

What do people make of him? Watched the triggernometry interview with him yesterday. I have previously seen bits and bobs of his but not taken much notice. In the interview he pointed out that out that his greatest criticism has been because he was lecturing people whilst being a benzo addict, tbh this was my criticism.

I don't know, to me he just seems disingenuous somehow, could be my bias like he says.

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UsedUpUsername · 15/03/2021 05:45

@Doona

Wasn't he the dude that said enforced monogamy was the solution to terrorism? Because all those scary violent men are just frustrated incels. Hmm
This has always been taken out of context. It’s an academic concept. I think it refers to humans being socially monogamous rather than genetically programmed for it like some animals.

But some very patriarchal cultures are polygamous and the argument is that they are more violent because of leftover men that can never hope to find a partner. I am not educated enough to tell you whether it’s true or not (patriarchal polygamy doesn’t seem great however you shake it).

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Hibari · 15/03/2021 04:23

Basic "self help book," psychology.
Hardline conservative.
MRA "father figure"/patriarchy enforcer.
Lobster enthusiast as he admires their hierarchal nature.
A lot of bollocks hidden behind a veneer of common sense such as thinking incels should be given wives - enforced monogamy.
Hates the trans.

Doona · 15/03/2021 04:16

Wasn't he the dude that said enforced monogamy was the solution to terrorism? Because all those scary violent men are just frustrated incels. Hmm

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 15/03/2021 03:37

I don't agree on all his religious views but was a really good advoccate of free speech in 2016 in Canada, when prefered pronouns and TRA took over the campuses there:

HelgaDownUnder · 15/03/2021 02:56

He's a man, speaking to men, mostly. I don't have a problem with what he says, which is mostly advocating personal responsibility.

If everyone, or every man, behaved themselves like he suggests, the world would be a better place

If any man stops blaming women and takes ownership of himself as a result of JP, well that is a good days work.

Fucket · 15/03/2021 02:29

Sorry posted too soon...

His drug addiction is a personal matter, and the same with anyone really, people are allowed to have personal demons it doesn’t make them less of a person.

It’s not a stick with which we should beat anyone with. On the flip side it doesn’t make a person brave or stunning just because they have/had addiction issues. As long as he doesn’t seek to capitalise on it then let him sort it out alone. But maybe he has tried to capitalise on it, I haven’t really looked him up in a while so don’t know.

Fucket · 15/03/2021 02:24

From what I have heard him say is that men need to grow up, “tidy their room” and act like the man they wished their fathers were. Stop talking about their rights but act on their responsibilities to yourself and others. To do so will give men meaning in life, some of the comments you read on YT from men thanking him from saving them from spiralling further into hatred has convinced me he is not all bad.

He seems very culturally conservative and has taken a lot of flak for his freedom of speech and pointing out the narcissistic behaviours in some TWAW.

He also is a big fan of equality of opportunity over equality of outcome. I don’t necessarily agree with all he says.

I actually liked some of his bible lectures explaining the psychology of the Old Testament. How these books are metaphors etc, explaining them from a different POV I’d never even thought of. Again just to get a POV not to always agree with him.

He clearly has a large male following and very successful author. I believe he understands his own sex very well, I think he fairs less well understanding women. I don’t think of him as an ally Of feminism an i don’t think he does either.

I’m very wary of demonising someone because of their personal demons.

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