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Sisters Uncut

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PegasusReturns · 15/03/2021 01:43

Sisters uncut who are said to be a driving force in turning last nights gathering from a vigil to a protest are now protesting on behalf of “women murdered by the state”.

Two of these “women” are rapists who brutalised children.

How can anyone be ok with this?

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nauticant · 15/03/2021 12:04

it's interesting how social media seem to have picked up on this way quicker than the mainstream, who look slow and flat footed this morning.

The mainstream know they have to stick to established facts. This is so incendiary that repeating misinformation could cause significant damage to a medial outlet. But the facts look hard to establish since the first hand stories and stories coming from images and videos are all over the place.

jj1968 · 15/03/2021 12:04

@PegasusReturns

On the plus side the majority of comments seem to be calling them out on it

People are calling them out when they realise what they stand for. But thousands and thousands of women don’t know. 21,000 donated to reclaim these streets/ sisters uncut. They turned up to protests at Scotland Yard and parliament square on behalf of at least two male rapists who killed them selves.

Almost 9000 people liked a photo of their protest yesterday

Probably not far off 2000 women turned out in response to their call to protest outside Scotland Yard last night as well. They do not seem unpopular with younger feminists, quite the opposite, this looks like the biggest street movement against male violence in a very long time.
PferdeMerde · 15/03/2021 12:03

Why do they still have an account? Supporting paedophilia is obviously illegal and against twitter rules.

Lumene · 15/03/2021 11:58

Some background on Sisters Uncut from a few years back:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3172250-Sisters-Uncut

Nelia5 · 15/03/2021 11:57

I saw it all unfold on Twitter on the day. The organisers of the vigil posted that the event was cancelled and for people to respect the decision and to do a candlelight vigil from home instead. Sisters uncut immediately took this as a call to arms with “we will not be silenced by the police” agenda. They posted for women to attend, not to carry id in case of arrest, to quote their rights to protest when confronted by police etc. I also watched the live stream of the vigil and it was peaceful and social distanced for the first hour with very little police presence, then it got more crowded, the chants got more one sided and police stopped more people from joining.. this is where this “kettling” happened that people are talking about. The police then started telling people to go home, this resulted in „we will not be moved“ chants and women holding on to the railings refusing to leave. Including the lady who was featured in the press lying on the floor in handcuffs

CaveMum · 15/03/2021 11:48

@FemaleAndLearning

I've had a quick look at their website, but can't see the stuff about being anti police and anti prisons. Can someone point me to it so I can read. I really don't want people to think this group represents me and would like some come back.
Have a look at their Twitter feed. The picture in the OP shows that they believe the police/state are killing women in prison.
FemaleAndLearning · 15/03/2021 11:45

I've had a quick look at their website, but can't see the stuff about being anti police and anti prisons. Can someone point me to it so I can read. I really don't want people to think this group represents me and would like some come back.

Floisme · 15/03/2021 11:40

Thanks for the pic CaveMum

I'm not a huge Twitter fan but it's interesting how social media seem to have picked up on this way quicker than the mainstream, who look slow and flat footed this morning.

WarriorN · 15/03/2021 11:37

They're very striking and visually emotive images of course. Especially ones where she's looking into the camera.

WarriorN · 15/03/2021 11:37

But it's that photo that's made the pages. photo of patsy I mean.

I'm sort of adding to Toffee's post.

WarriorN · 15/03/2021 11:35

@toffeebutterpopcorn

Why does her colour matter? I’ve seen people in SM try to make this a kit colour. I don’t get it - are we not all women battling the same sexism?

You'd need to listen for the context.

One point was that obviously there's history of racism from the police in the past and unfair treatment and so feelings in some communities were running high. They mentioned many were there to also remember the murders of two sisters killed last year while walking home too. But it's that photo that's made the pages.

It's worth listening to the discussion, many different things brought up.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 15/03/2021 11:26

It was going to be a Nationally - if not internationally - covered event. A good audience. Good strategy.

CaveMum · 15/03/2021 11:25

There's an interview with Patsy Stevenson either from late Saturday or possibly on Sunday. I can't find the link on Twitter, someone else may have it, but in it she talks about protecting transwomen and fails to mention Sarah Everard once. That tells you all you need to know.

Thecatonthemat · 15/03/2021 11:22

Wendy yes of course they wanted men and tw there. Not interested in commemorating Sarah, but actively promoting males at the expense of women.

SunsetBeetch · 15/03/2021 11:17

What does this have to do with Sarah's death?

"Chants of 'fuck Starmer' at the Sister's Uncut protest today at New Scotland Yard do not bode well for his future as Labour leader"

And no, Jason, you are NOT a feminist.

twitter.com/Bond_JasonBond/status/1371151243452760070?s=20

WendyTestaburger · 15/03/2021 11:16

Before the vigil there were a few tweets asking if the event was going to be for transwomen too, as apparently allies wanted to show support.

If the organisers had said no, this is a female only event, I wonder if Sisters Uncut would have turned up to protest the vigil?

toffeebutterpopcorn · 15/03/2021 11:15

Why does her colour matter? I’ve seen people in SM try to make this a kit colour. I don’t get it - are we not all women battling the same sexism?

WarriorN · 15/03/2021 11:14

Very good piece on woman's hour today about all this.

Also noted the image of an arrested woman splashed across papers was white.

Okbussitout · 15/03/2021 11:13

@NecessaryScene1

I went to a meeting once actually. It was very focused on meeting with the council re these cuts so not much about their ideology.

When was this? I do recall them being a real sensible group when formed in the 2000s. Are they still operating a sensible moderate campaigning wing?

Umm late 2016 or early 2017. As I remember it was winter as it was cold and the first one when I'd moved to they city I now live in. It was very much a sort of lobbying approach to activism. From this branch at that time.. I think it petered out form just the time commitments of people involved but not sure.
toffeebutterpopcorn · 15/03/2021 11:09

CaveMum - I’m not often wrong... but I have a good nose.

At last 3 years studying psychology and contextual analysis has finally paid of (what’s in this image, what story are they telling, who controls the narrative, who are the key players, what are they doing, how has it been framed, who created the image, is there any attempted conscious manipulation of the narrative, what is the lighting like...

SunsetBeetch · 15/03/2021 11:08

Janice Turner is on the case:

"Alarming that Sisters Uncut members & others are making statements which could jeopardise trial of man charged with killing Sarah Everard. Such activists don’t care about making the world materially better for women. Causes are just levers to fuel their outrage machine."

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1371397501039824897?s=20

SunsetBeetch · 15/03/2021 11:04

"We were there to protest rape.
They were there to protest us.
We sang, danced, and cheered.
They defaced a building."

twitter.com/NoName_XX_AHF/status/1226514391186755584?s=20

CaveMum · 15/03/2021 11:04

@Floisme

Is Patsy Stevenson (the woman arrested) part of Sisters Uncut?
I found this picture of the SU protest at the "Suffragette" film premiere of a group of women lying on the floor. The red-haired woman talking to the man standing over them looks rather familiar if you know what I'm saying, at least to me anyway.
NecessaryScene1 · 15/03/2021 11:03

Some fantastic stuff on this thread - if this group are getting some press because of the recent case, it seems like a good opportunity for some decent journalists to get the word out.

Seems like something that would have general "wtf?" interest beyond feminist circles. "Anti-women women's group" is newsworthy. Private Eye, James Kirkup...?

Anyone with contacts like that should point them at this thread.

MaudTheInvincible · 15/03/2021 10:58

@Ereshkigalangcleg

It will just give men another 'mad feminists' stick to beat us with.

Good point Sad

Yes I saw just such a man on twitter claiming that the police's behaviour at the vigil was all the fault of 'radical feminists' who were reaping what they'd sown. Many women pointed out to him that these people are about as far removed from radical feminists as it's possible to get, that they saw their use of the term feminist as an abomination, and that they were seen as working very much for the patriarchy.

I don't think he was listening though.

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