Stonewall at it again. Domestic Violence Bill

Why on earth is Stella Creasy peddling this crap? She strikes me as an intelligent woman so I find it hard to believe that she genuinely can't see the problem with this amendment, with Stonewall, or with TWAW. Is it that she knows it's bullshit but thinks there's political capital in playing along?

Also - which bit - or is it in both parts -making misogyny a hate crime and making DV gender neutral erasing women where there is minimal references to women.

If you can’t name it, you can’t see it then you can’t stop it.

Hi, can somebody give me a quick summary of what is going on with this and where it is in parliament so I can write to my MP.

Is this the Stella Creasy nonsense sex AND gender bit - Trojan horse to include gender into law and will make it more difficult for women to assert our rights as we will be will be classed as commiting misogyny based on gender - against males - you couldn’t make this shit up!

DV and IS a gendered crime - this will remove all statistics needed to support women.

Thanks.

Postponed, i think, from the Sex Matters Twitter:

'The Lords are not going to get to discuss the Dodgy Amendment Reversing Victim and Offender tonight

#DARVOAmendment87

Probably Wednesday'

Does anyone know the upshot?

insecure status sorry

A long discussion has been going on about secure immigration status. Vulnerability is clear as they are unable to have recourse to public funds. This is Lord Hunt again - he's so good on women's issues and control of abusers able to use secure status

I'm at work so can't follow this- thanks to those who are posting.

Home Office unwittingly supporting perpetrators - what a very good point

Now onto Immigration status and not using details in order to have consequences of information from victims to police then on to immigration office. Firewall is needed. Data sharing is inconsistent among police forces - well that's unusual isn't it who'd a thought

Wont be awake then but hopefully I'll wake up in the morning and find out what happened. The debate is interesting

Thanks for posting

Please do keep tweeting about this (using #DARVOamendment87B).... it probably wont get debated till late (like Midnight!).

I meant to add that that is in order to access legal aid

GP's not to charge for evidence for DV victims, it is discretion any number of people can be approached for evidence BMA recommended a charge should not be levied on those needing evidence. Non binding recommendation so 66c no person may charge for production of evidence. This is great news

Misogyny has been committed against women for centuries, better consideration is mind numbingly stupid. They know that misogyny is so widespread that the police wouldn't be able to cope with the numbers. Women under report - men overreport

Yes, CaveMum just listening. Not sure when to post, but will wait and see how the amendments progress. At the minute it's housing and talking about delays with consultations and want assurances (this is to do with Scotland having more protections) that this wont be kicked into the long grass (this is to do with taking over the tenancy so that perpetrator is removed but must carry on with the finances whilst being removed. I have a feeling this was never enacted because of an argument about Human Rights and right to home

Bumping as the debate is ongoing

Oh, arse, missed this. Hope it goes well.

self

A bump to remind my

I’m hoping that the timing will blow up in their face. We don’t want to politicise a tragedy but someone needs to say something along the lines of “In a week when violence against women has dominated the headlines, it is insensitive, to say the least, that an amendment proposing the removal of the word “women” has been tabled.”

The timing couldn't be worse. They really have no shame.

Thanks