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Am I a victim or a slut?

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carolynjw75 · 14/03/2021 01:03

I need some help. I see the press about#metoo and grooming etc. I’ve had relations with men from the age of 15 - fathers of children I’ve babysat, me I’ve met in pubs, men at work - but was I in control of that or was I manipulated or taken advantage of? I’ve always liked to think I was in control but as I’ve grown older (and wiser) I’ve wondered, was I taken advantage off? I certainly regret some if those decisions taken very early in my like. I recently raised these issues with my current partner and was very upset that his attitude seemed to be that I was wrong as a 15 year old encouraging these attentions. I’d be very interested in other opinions.

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DogsAreShit · 14/03/2021 01:47

Yes I would say survivor also.

For those times when you were under the age of consent or when the man was in a position of trust/authority/unequal social standing due to age etc, it doesn't matter a damn what "encouragement" you exhibited : even if you were billy bollock naked, an adult man should not be having sex with a fifteen year old girl.

midsummabreak · 14/03/2021 01:38

You are not a victim either, you are a survivor, of grooming and coercive abuse by older fathers of your friends at school. I hope you find respect and love you deserve , and as for your current partner , he is part of the problem and needs to step up and stand up for you, and support you to stand up for yourself.

midsummabreak · 14/03/2021 01:32

There is no such thing as a slut.
Slut-shaming is a myth used by people to blame women for being coerced and assaulted.

They used to openly slut shame women who stood up to the criminal/s who assaulted them, and even in court it was used by the defendants and their lawyers to try to convince the judge that it was her “asking for it”

This is how they kept people silent about their assault-as women who dared to take their rapist/s to court were retraumatised throughout the court case.

It’s no longer allowed, because it is another misogynistic lie and has nothing to do with consent.

Sstrongtn · 14/03/2021 01:28

I’ve only been raped once. Not that the police believe me despite the fact I was black, blue and unable to walk.

But I’ve had coerced, lazy or semi consensual sex far too many times. From the man who followed a far too drunk me into the toilet in a pub, to the one who texted the morning after he left a hotel room to say get the MAP because I didn’t use the condoms we agreed on every time, those would be the times he started as I slept.

It’s not you it’s them.

VampireTheBuffetSlayer · 14/03/2021 01:27

Oh god and whatever else, slut is such a misogynistic term!

IdblowJonSnow · 14/03/2021 01:26

What do you think OP?

And why use the word slut? Angry

VampireTheBuffetSlayer · 14/03/2021 01:24

I'm coming to terms in my late 40s that a lot of the decisions I made in my younger years were coercive. The love bombing, the manipulation, so much of it was not in my control. I'm trying to not be an angry older women but it's hard!

webeatle · 14/03/2021 01:24

When I turned 18 a man I knew as a father figure tried to have sex with me. I only just managed to say no as I was vulnerable to him, still a child really especially as he knew me from birth. If your over 20 now think of what the 15 year old CHILDREN look like. At 15 you think your mature but adults should see them as kids really. Anyone in a school uniform looks so young and are vulnerable, adults shouldn't be attracted to them. If a 15 year old boy flirted with you now I think you would know better x

ZaZathecat · 14/03/2021 01:23

Those fathers were predators and paedophiles. You were not responsible for this at 15, even if you encouraged them. They were the adults and you were under the age of consent.

nocoolnamesleft · 14/03/2021 01:15

You were 15. These were adults, predatory adults.

FactsAndFigs · 14/03/2021 01:10

Please don’t ever say or think your slut and never ever let anyone tell you are, regardless of age.

As PP said you was 15! 15! Yes only 15! A child. Flowers

OppsUpsSide · 14/03/2021 01:05

At 15 you were legally deemed unable to consent, so what do you think?

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