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"Hundreds defy ban to attend Clapham vigil"

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 13/03/2021 19:26

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sarah-everard-vigil-defy-police-ban-clapham-common-b923959.html

"Hundreds defy ban to attend Clapham vigil"
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Logoff · 14/03/2021 16:49

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Wasn't it Nottinghamshire Police who experimented with recording misogyny as a hate crime?
I wasn’t commenting on that, I was commenting on how they handled the vigil last night Smile
Logoff · 14/03/2021 16:49

That’s not correct, if you look at the ruling, the high court left it to the Met to interpret. Hard to miss really.

Sansaplans · 14/03/2021 16:34

@Logoff

Well done to Nottinghamshire police who worked with the vigil organisers and did not provoke violence. Showing how it should be done.
The high court ruled that the met wasn't to allow it. Were notts police told the same?
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 14/03/2021 16:34

Wasn't it Nottinghamshire Police who experimented with recording misogyny as a hate crime?

Logoff · 14/03/2021 16:30

Well done to Nottinghamshire police who worked with the vigil organisers and did not provoke violence. Showing how it should be done.

Sansaplans · 14/03/2021 16:30

Wasn't khan all about the dangers of covid the other day? Also must be some irony in people are calling for CD, a woman, to resign when the decision about whether it was lawful or not to gather was out of her hands.

stumbledin · 14/03/2021 16:30

The woman arrested is linked to Women's Strike who have a similar agenda to Sisters Uncut.

I've posted on another thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4191571-Clapham-Common?pg=2 so wont repeat myself, but these groups regularly piggy back on other events, women or otherwise with the expectation / hope of an arrest and more importantly a good photo op for the main stream media.

They you get to spout your agenda about policing / the UK is a police state and everybody starts talking about your agenda and not the purpose of the vigil.

NearlyAlwaysInsane · 14/03/2021 16:28

Sad to see a remembrance event get hijacked, and not only by some who were there (shameless and self-righteous), but by those who weren't, and who love the political capital that posturing on the issue will bring (Khan).

And all leading to talk about issues other (Cressida resign! Why not ban this/that/the other protest in x,y,z city? Ad nauseam) than the sad fact that led to the gathering in the first place.

merrymouse · 14/03/2021 16:25

Re: Cressida Dick, it’s up to Sadiq Khan and Priti Patel, who don’t exactly see eye to eye, so who knows?

CorvusPurpureus · 14/03/2021 16:24

Hmm. Seems to me that whenever Sisters Uncut rock up to an event for women...women start getting abused verbally or physically hurt.

It's uncanny 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Justanotherworkingmom · 14/03/2021 16:20

Incredibly sad that some low lives are using a dead woman to excuse low level criminality and provoking the police. There was absolutely no need for any of these “protestors” to be on Clapham Common last night. The same message could have been sent using entirely lawful and dignified means. They are beneath contempt.

jj1968 · 14/03/2021 16:18

There's a livestream here of the protest outside Scotland Yard in response to yesterday's events if anyone's interested:

Logoff · 14/03/2021 16:14

@Impatiens

Looks like Cressida Dick will go but that isn't going to solve the issues.
Really? Have you got a source for that please?
Impatiens · 14/03/2021 16:10

Looks like Cressida Dick will go but that isn't going to solve the issues.

Logoff · 14/03/2021 15:54

And all of a sudden, the police surged forward in considerable numbers pushing everyone forward while simultaneously shouting at everyone to get back

This is exactly how he described it. I need to stay off Twitter, just seen a police officer use the #bekind about the met police. It has enraged me, normally someone supportive of the police.

It’s.not.about.you

Sparechange · 14/03/2021 15:47

@Logoff

Anyone listen to Andrew Castle on LBC this morning? He was there and said it was peaceful until police moved in. He was honest (I think), said there were a few verbal anti police comments but nothing more than that. He was very much of the opinion that the police escalated it.

I was really disappointed to hear some of the police calling in, not willing to listen or engage, it was all about them and their defensive feelings.

I completely agree with that

It was entirely peaceful and the police were standing a way back, bar a few of them at the foot of the bandstand.

There were people in orange high vis vests with ‘official observer’ written in them moving around writing in notebooks but I’m not sure if they were there as part of the police or organisers. Plus several others in blue ‘police liason’ vests.

And all of a sudden, the police surged forward in considerable numbers pushing everyone forward while simultaneously shouting at everyone to get back.

Not only was it patently ridiculous to be kettling people while telling them to move away, it was a totally antagonist and aggressive move.

I wasn’t in the ‘inner circle’ who got caught up and pushed forward but if I had, I would ha w stood my ground. They had absolutely no basis for ordering anyone to move, none at all.

And as the footage shows, the women arrested were standing stock still and silent.

The Met statement was absolutely bare faced lies to say objects were thrown at police. Nothing was thrown.

Logoff · 14/03/2021 15:40

Anyone listen to Andrew Castle on LBC this morning? He was there and said it was peaceful until police moved in. He was honest (I think), said there were a few verbal anti police comments but nothing more than that. He was very much of the opinion that the police escalated it.

I was really disappointed to hear some of the police calling in, not willing to listen or engage, it was all about them and their defensive feelings.

ThisIsSimplyBeyond · 14/03/2021 15:36

Using their own (banned here...) terms, a * * woman is kidnapped and murdered by a * * man, and somehow it's still all about that other group of people.

Sansaplans · 14/03/2021 15:14

@happydappy2

Bearing in mind sisters uncut lobby for the rights of males who identify as women-they had no right to be present at that vigil. Suggest if anyone is in any doubt-do some looking online.
As long as they got to jump on the vigil for their own agenda, hey.
happydappy2 · 14/03/2021 15:13

Bearing in mind sisters uncut lobby for the rights of males who identify as women-they had no right to be present at that vigil. Suggest if anyone is in any doubt-do some looking online.

jj1968 · 14/03/2021 14:49

Women peacefully gathered, laid flowers, said prayers-calmly & respectfully. Then some fringe groups took centre stage-sisters uncut & a group with signs saying ACAB-footage of a petite red head being arrested is plastered all over the media & the first words out of her mouth are 'TW and xxx women should be safe' (The term is banned so I can't type it.)

From the reaction of the crowd here it looks like Sisters Uncut were pretty popular: twitter.com/SistersUncut/status/1370847160770699266

happydappy2 · 14/03/2021 14:44

So, to sum up, a peaceful vigil that should have been allowed to happen (as BLM was) was told it could not go ahead. Women still wanted to pay their respects and show that society must change its stance and do more to protect women.

Women peacefully gathered, laid flowers, said prayers-calmly & respectfully. Then some fringe groups took centre stage-sisters uncut & a group with signs saying ACAB-footage of a petite red head being arrested is plastered all over the media & the first words out of her mouth are 'TW and xxx women should be safe' (The term is banned so I can't type it.)

Very illuminating that some groups still centre trans women.....women are never allowed to just gather & fight for the safety of other women. At any large protest, fringe groups will infiltrate-never more so than yesterday.

CristalCarrington · 14/03/2021 12:45

Cancel that, just found it !

CristalCarrington · 14/03/2021 12:44

What’s an MRA?

ListeningQuietly · 14/03/2021 12:40

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