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The word 'she' being ruder than the word 'he'

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Blackcountryman12 · 13/03/2021 15:23

I noticed a post in another topic from a few months ago where a member said they were brought up to believe 'she' was a rude word and when they referred to adult relatives as 'she' instead of their name, even though they weren't saying 'she' in a rude way, their mum would tell them off with that old-fashioned phrase "who's she, the cat's mother" (A phrase I can't stand), yet they were never told off for calling a man 'he' instead of using his name.

Referring to a man as 'he' instead of his name doesn't especially seem to be seen as offensive, hence no-one saying "who's he, that cat's whatever", so what was considered so rude about referring to a woman as 'she' instead of her name that led to that harsh, snooty and daft phrase about some imaginary cat and one of its parents?

The saying seemed to imply more than the woman being referred to has a name, it seemed to also mean "don't call someone 'she' because it's very rude". I have noticed men being called 'he' including in situations like "HE said that" and they weren't offended at being called 'he'.

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motherrunner · 13/03/2021 16:30

@MaudTheInvincible

My mum used to do the 'who's she, the cat's mother?' line to me when I was a little girl. It would be hard to find a more misogynist woman tbh.
This is the first thing that came to mind - my mum/nan used to say it all the time.

I’m a teacher and I dislike the use of ‘she’ AND ‘he’, but only when the person in question is present, it’s like negating their presence. I’d that person is now there. Nope. Pronouns are fair game.

TheBuffster · 13/03/2021 16:25

Doesn't that make the whole, "My pronouns are" movement kind of redundant.

If a she is dropped out of hearing does it still validate?

merrymouse · 13/03/2021 16:12

You shouldn’t refer to somebody with a third person pronoun when they are present.

That is what this refers to.

MaudTheInvincible · 13/03/2021 16:09

My mum used to do the 'who's she, the cat's mother?' line to me when I was a little girl. It would be hard to find a more misogynist woman tbh.

TheBuffster · 13/03/2021 15:57

I first heard this when I was telling my (very sarcastic) primary teacher about something. I can't remember what it was but it may have been tattling and thus her use of it was to shut me up complaining, which has a ring of 'calm down dear' misogyny to me.