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I'm just angry all the time, anyone else?

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WhyZed · 13/03/2021 10:12

I've loved this place on the Internet but have had to hide it in my topics for more than six months now because I was feeling more and more despondent and angry.
I'm desperate to come back properly but please can someone tell me how to deal with the rage? I'm literally shaking typing this. I know this is a personal issue with me being unable to deal with my feelings but I'm surely not the only one who sees the news, the updates from Scotland and elsewhere and just simmers.
How do you deal with this?

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 13/03/2021 22:15

@endofthelinefinally

Me too. Radio presenter just announced that statistcally TW experience more attacks/ assaults than women. Is that true? Where can I find out? In any case, it is men doing the attacking, so why try to distract and divert attention away from women?
It is for the radio presenter to give the source of that claim.

As ever, there is no denominator, no definition of what counts as attacks or assaults. I saw something on Twitter that attempted to claim that every act of aggression counts x2 - once as a hate crime related to trans status and another against a protected class (women - I'm uncertain if anyone has done the arithmetic for other groups).

WeRoarSometimes · 13/03/2021 21:45

@adviceseekingnamechanger
Hear hear.
Yesterday's Guarodan made me cry. All those women, so many women and Eddie Izzard propped there.
Why over why?

toffeebutterpopcorn · 13/03/2021 20:27

@endofthelinefinally

Me too. Radio presenter just announced that statistcally TW experience more attacks/ assaults than women. Is that true? Where can I find out? In any case, it is men doing the attacking, so why try to distract and divert attention away from women?
Depends how you define attack.

I assume that number is based on complaints made and attacks - from physical assault all the way down to verbal bullying/‘dead naming’ and misgendering... women just don’t run off to the police every time they are verbally attacked/hassled or grabbed/groped (or insulted/threatened on social media). Can you imagine them actually bothering when they don’t even seem to take rape seriously?

Edna311 · 13/03/2021 19:56

Another one here constantly enraged and fearful for my blood pressure.

ANewCreation · 13/03/2021 19:48

Barraker

“Instead, I'm compelled to treat the imposter's false claim as somehow equal to my own real one, and ensure I always consider how to make them feel welcome. Never rebuff them. Never deny them. My very act of daring to openly defy them and deny them what they want - what is mine - is called 'intolerant'. I'm told I can claim the baby is mine, but I must make my case without declaring the imposter to be an imposter.
This is how I feel.“

100 times, YES, to all of your post!

Many people just don't get our passion so I wonder if it might be helpful to think about the difference between 'envy' and 'jealousy' when it comes to our anger. I think that there is a difference, even though we often use the words interchangeably.

Envy is wanting, demanding or desiring something that is not rightfully ours but belongs to someone else, so a male wanting access to prizes/concessions for females or, say, 'boobs' for example.

Whereas Jealousy is impassionedly demanding to hold on to what is, already, rightfully and uniquely ours.

Our anger is currently white hot because we are being forced to jealously guard what is already rightfully and uniquely ours - our language, our spaces, our protections in law - while others are prepared to either carelessly give them away (through failing to see their value) or enviously usurp them.

As for how practically to manage the 'righteous anger', I have to sometimes remind myself to have more compassion on my resident wokester who can't yet see the bigger picture, whose critical thinking skills are not well developed and who I know is not personally responsible for all the outrageous guff TRAs etc say.

It's never going to be comfortable being Cassandra...

endofthelinefinally · 13/03/2021 19:46

Me too. Radio presenter just announced that statistcally TW experience more attacks/ assaults than women.
Is that true?
Where can I find out?
In any case, it is men doing the attacking, so why try to distract and divert attention away from women?

EdinburghFeminist · 13/03/2021 19:39

Yes absolutely. It’s never ending. Constantly angry, upset and exhausted. You are not alone, FWR is the only place I feel I can open discuss this, I’m so glad it’s here!

Nilbog · 13/03/2021 19:35

A walk with a friend usually helps to process the rage for me but I still can’t broach the topics that have created the rage because I know that not everyone shares the same point of view. I’m becoming a bit of a bore when it comes to women’s rights.

I do yoga and kickboxing and it helps. I love the sound of daily acts of feminism, I’d like to do more of that.

I like the sound of:

“Being actively involved in "action" via a feminist group helped a lot; knowing I can meet and talk to local people who feel the same etc.” From WarriorN

and this from pandorasmailbox

built up a network of like-minded women (and some men) onine and in real life.

MichelleofzeResistance · 13/03/2021 19:35

I've had a huge tantrum today from a male acquaintance who is furious that I and another female friend were talking about male violence. He's deeply offended, even though everyone repeatedly NAMALTED in an attempt to soothe him, got really upset at the statistics and called us sexist, and then yelled about us being woke and virtue signalling, which made me laugh.... he knows it's something bad to call people, but honestly has no clue. Women defending sex based classification and women's rights being woke...?

The worst thing about male violence apparently is women daring to notice and name it.

HippopotumArse · 13/03/2021 19:04

I absolutely lost it yesterday when my (female) boss talked about how it wasn't a good idea for women to meet at Clapham.
I started by saying, "you have to understand that women are bloody raging and here's why..."
Think my tirade lasted about 10 minutes, with a rundown of the last couple of weeks in feminist fights. She basically put her fingers in her ears and NAMALTed.Blush
I then told her that whilst we're unlikely to end up in a women's refuge, prison or psychiatric ward, there are plenty of vulnerable women who will and they do not need to be assaulted by male bodied people while they're in there.
She said 'How do you know?' 'How does it affect you?'
I explained about having escaped DV and five the Freedom programme - women only. Were it not for my parents I'd have ended up in a refuge with my daughter.
She plastered on a smile and went off to make a cup of tea. #bekind.
Thankfully I have zero career ambition.
You'll find plenty of women like this though. They have their cosy lives and just don't want to know or give a shit.

CriticalCondition · 13/03/2021 18:36

Yes, me too. Simmering rage most of the time. Particularly this week. The Scottish hate crime bill, Sarah Everard, the transwoman's entry for a women's literary prize and then the Guardian's front page was the cherry on top of a shit cake of misogyny.

I consoled myself with thoughts of the grown ups in the House of Lords, the High Court and the Court of Appeal all of whom have demonstrated in recent days they clearly 'get it'. And that's where things will change. Where laws are made.

I'm going to channel my anger into more letters and more donations to legal challenges.

And boxing sounds a great idea. In the meantime I beat the hell out of the pillows when I make the bed.

OhHolyJesus · 13/03/2021 18:21

Another here, also permanently angry. I recommend getting off Twitter, kickboxing and taking breaks, just to manage and cope with everyday life.

Coming here to talk about it with others who understand helps too. I feel like FWR is a public service!

For every high there is a low but overall we are making progress and as it's a marathon and not a lasting we need to keep our energy up and not peak too soon.

See what I did there?

Chin up OP. There are more of us waking up every day.

AvocadoBathroom · 13/03/2021 18:08

@Cagedbirdsinging

Me too . Angry and tearful and just so , so sad . Nowhere is safe for us or our children .
Exactly this.
Babdoc · 13/03/2021 17:45

A (now long deceased) colleague told me decades ago “Don’t get mad. Get even.”
Channel your anger, OP. Turn it into positive action. Write to MPs, fund raise for feminist groups, bring up your DC as radfems, support other women both online and irl, challenge misogyny wherever it rears its ugly head. Be part of the solution instead of raging or crying over the problem.
We will prevail.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 13/03/2021 17:34

Well if your blood pressure is up today, don’t check out the Reclaim These Streets tweets today. It took them about 8 hours to wuss out.

BoeotianNightmare · 13/03/2021 17:24

Yes (even though I'm only just getting to grips with it all). I feel increasingly alienated from others and I know the anger is only just beneath the surface (if not actually on the surface).

toffeebutterpopcorn · 13/03/2021 17:17

I have The Rage quite a lot these days. It’s exhausting!

Darnley · 13/03/2021 17:13

I hear you. I too am absolutely bloody furious most of the time.

Timefortea4 · 13/03/2021 16:50

Yes. This year I was angry in anticipation of international women's Day, during IWD, and after. I'm angry every time I get an email from another colleague who has added their pronouns to their signature. I'm angry when the staff women's network turns into the gender equality network. Angry and scared that the tipping point will never come.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2021 16:06

And the misplaced sanctimoniousness.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2021 16:05

Oh same, RoyalCorgi

RoyalCorgi · 13/03/2021 16:04

Absolutely furious the entire time. I never know what angers me most - the stupidity, the misogyny or the authoritarianism. Generally all three go together, though.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 13/03/2021 16:04

God yes. This week has elevated it for us all I reckon. And I swear reading all the NAMALT on here the last few days my blood pressure must be sky high.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/03/2021 15:58

Not mine sadly but it's a good expression!

AdHominemNonSequitur · 13/03/2021 15:57

The testacles of objectivity :) ❤️

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