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Davina McCall wouldn't walk home alone in the dark

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MrGHardy · 13/03/2021 01:43

twitter.com/ThisisDavina/status/1370302344575995904

Quite an interesting take for someone who most likely never has to walk home alone in the dark from work. Problem solved, eh?

"I wouldn’t walk home alone in the dark. And lots of men I know wouldn’t either... because there are some ( very few relatively ) bad people out there. But your response is say you view all men as a danger and I don’t think we should be spreading that message."

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MiddlesexGirl · 13/03/2021 08:15

Well there goes any theatre or concert going for me then Hmm

I'm fortunate that I have a car so I drive to most of my evening activities. But sometimes I have to take public transport. I have many friends who don't have a car. What are they supposed to do? Sit at home and do their knitting?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 13/03/2021 08:14

The point is that, as other posters have said, its a bit of a stupid comment

Its dark at 4ish for a fair few months here and virtually impossible to have even a 9-5 job with out having to walk in the dark let alone shift work or actually wanting a social life

Public transport isn’t good in many areas, some people dont have cars and cant afford taxis on a regular basis

Dd is at uni and her regular walk to her classmates house involves walking through a subway where its not possible to see through it unless you are in it and where someone was stabbed to death, the lads at the house quite often walk her through it and weve said to get a taxi but i bet she doesn’t!

We live in a reasonably safe village (the only dodgy alley we have is called poo alley)

fairydustandpixies · 13/03/2021 08:12

I was sexually assaulted a couple of years ago. In broad daylight on a Saturday afternoon at the end of a busy high street. I still walk 'after dark' and during the day too.

WhateverJohnnyMcNofriends · 13/03/2021 08:10

I saw Davina's name trending on Twitter yesterday so I went to see why and discover she's blocked me. I've never even interacted with her, she's never been of interest. Very odd. Confused

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mummywantstobeslim · 13/03/2021 08:06

In my younger years I have walked home alone at night because of having no money for a taxi. It's easy for davina to say that . She certainly can afford a taxi. She's out of touch with reality.

KitesFlyingInTheWind · 13/03/2021 07:57

It's not just after dark, is it?
I was molested in broad daylight as a child.
I was flashed at in the early afternoon as a teen.

Fromage · 13/03/2021 07:47

Oh.

Davina is an idiot.

How disappointing.

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picknmix1984 · 13/03/2021 07:39

If 97% of women state they have been sexually harassed at some point in their lives then some of those men doing it are 'normal I'm afraid. They may live 'normal' lives with you or me. Have 'normal' jobs and love their kids. They may even help out at primary school.

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crayolacom · 13/03/2021 07:33

@PotholeParadies

Oh come on. Perhaps rolexes was overstating it, but "normal"? I doubt many of them are doing the 2-10 shift in Tesco, never mind unable to afford a taxi or a car.
My FiL is a multi millionaire who has an MBE. He has very normal mates! Why are people making such wild assumptions about Davina?
Clymene · 13/03/2021 07:31

Absolutely is the same as the short skirt argument

She doesn't sound like a woman I'd want to be friends with @Handsoffstrikesagain

crayolacom · 13/03/2021 07:31

@PotholeParadies

That is so out of touch she might as well be on the moon.

Of course she wouldn't. She'd drive (v. expensive car, bet ya) or have her chauffeur do it while she tweeted on her phone. Her male friends are going to be celebs aren't they, dripping with Rolexes? Not gonna walk home.

What the hell does that have to do with the rest of us, without her income?

This is A LOT of assumptions for one post
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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 13/03/2021 07:10

Well I have to walk home in the dark, I sometimes work late and can't park near my house, I have to park 5 or 6 streets away and walk down some very quiet roads. Should i give up my job? Should women only leave the house with a male chaperone after 9?
We don't all have the luxury of choice and I think it was an odd remark and the other part about Not All Men - we know that but we should be able to talk about it I don't think she should be leaping in to defend men at this point it would be a good time to focus on violence against women.

Clymene · 13/03/2021 06:08

@Handsoffstrikesagain

Hi starry as I’ve said I haven’t actually read what’s been said etc and completely agree with your points. I wasn’t at any point questioning that. I literally just wanted to clarify a point about assumptions regarding Davina's friends. Nothing more to it than that. Believe me as a survivor of CSA and then long term relationship with a man who beat me up and abused me for years, I know exactly how much more vulnerable women are. I never called that into question.
Eh? It's quoted in the OP Confused

Here it is again:

"I wouldn’t walk home alone in the dark. And lots of men I know wouldn’t either... because there are some ( very few relatively ) bad people out there. But your response is say you view all men as a danger and I don’t think we should be spreading that message."

Perhaps if Davina has got loads of 'ordinary' friends, she'll stump up the cash so they don't have to walk home in the dark either. Hmm

But really the point of this is she's basically saying it's Sarah Everard's fault she was abducted and murdered. With a hefty dose of Not All Men thrown in.

Maybe you could tell her the optics aren't good next time you see her.

MrsOrMiss · 13/03/2021 04:11

Any woman who trots out garbage like that is victim blaming. Be it Davina McCall or Ms Boggs down the road. They need to think before opening their mouths.

Dervel · 13/03/2021 04:05

Thing is this whole debate has women check mated. It’s a choice between raising a very real issue, but in so doing spreading a lot of fear that will result in people living in that fear. Robbing them of the liberty to fully take part and engage in society. On the other hand you try to minimise the perceived threat and you’re leaving women vulnerable.

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Starrylight · 13/03/2021 03:31

@Handsoffstrikesagain Fair enough that you and Davina share the same wide circle of friends. And no of course its completely not right to call out 'all men' on female abduction/murders'... But the stastics tend to lean very heavily towards mainly men commiting most female abduction/murder? Presumably there are reasons behind that then? I'll stick my neck out on the line and state it's because of related cases linked to; sexual motivation, men being physically stronger (generally) to be able to carry out attacks, motivated by attacks on previous/current partners, power motivation, plain old opportunity, feeling imasculated by 'rejection' of a woman they've randomly approached. Yes, all of which could also be said for male on male crimes. But very rarely said for women on male crimes of the same nature. Or am I mislead to think that? It's not about 'calling out all men', it's about women recognising that statistically we're far more likely to be low level harassed by men up to the point of abduction and murder than men by women. So imho Davina is talking out her bum...

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LunaHeather · 13/03/2021 03:12

@Handsoffstrikesagain

mrsterry I’m not going to get into the ins and outs of everyone’s finances but I’d say yes at various points a few that couldn’t afford cabs. Also, a few that don’t own cars and live in the ‘not so naice’ part of town.
Not really the point

The point is, it was an idiotic comment and no help at all.