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Jess Philips counting dead women

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Scrunchy95 · 12/03/2021 09:05

Jess Phillips reading the names of the 118 women murdered at the hands of men in the last year, in parliament yesterday, has floored me! I listened to every name with deep respect and deep sorrow that this violence against women is just an accepted part of our society. What she did was incredibly powerful.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56365827

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Scrunchy95 · 12/03/2021 09:49

@Numicon

Jess Phillips thinks men can be women.
Where does she say that? She believes that we can have a solution and reasonable adjustment and rhetoric that gives progress to Trans people while protecting women-only spaces.

Accepting Trans women while ensuring women's rights and safety remains protected is exactly what we need. This isn't 'believing men can be women' it is acknowledging that trans women aren't women but are valid in their own skin.

Reading a list of 118 women who died in the last year which doesn't include any Trans women is a very powerful highlight as to just how much women are at risk and need safety measures.

Nobody is reading a list of all the Trans women who have been murdered by men in the last year. There is a simple reason for this... there haven't been any.

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Dailyhandtowelwash · 12/03/2021 09:37

She's done it every year in the IWD debate. Six years since she started, and the point she's making, that this isn't taken seriously by Government, is exactly the same. How depressing. The media continues to report on the murders of women (when it does) as isolated incidents. If two people a week were dying from misusing a drug, can you imagine the coverage? If two people a week were dying from an activity, it would be banned by now.

I used to work with a senior police officer by the way, who thought he knew better than anyone, including any women, about how media coverage of domestic violence and rape affected people. He's run domestic violence units in the past. He refused to accept that media depictions of rape and violence affected anyone's thinking at all. While we have people like him in charge, I feel very gloomy about the prospect of change.

Numicon · 12/03/2021 09:37

But isn't it a bit much that the woman who is making such a big deal out of women's plight, doesn't believe women exist as a sex category!

zanahoria · 12/03/2021 09:35

The Guardian has put photos of the murdered women on the front page, next to this quote from Eddie Izzard about being promoted to a 'she'

Sarah Everard story on there too

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Floisme · 12/03/2021 09:35

I am happy to give Jess Philips credit when I think it is due, so thank you Jess, you did a good thing yesterday.

And thank you to Karen Ingala Smith for compiling the names.

Flowers to all

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CoffeeWithCheese · 12/03/2021 09:25

I know there are issues with Phillips' stance regarding gender - but, as someone who had a friend who was unfortunate enough to make the list one year (murdered by her husband), it is an incredibly moving gesture and some acknowledgement of how fucked up the situation is regarding male violence against women.

334bu · 12/03/2021 09:19

FlowersRIP

cosmopolitanplease · 12/03/2021 09:17

Karen Ingala Smith does amazing work compiling and checking the list of dead women killed by men. And she knows what a woman is too.

iamaMused · 12/03/2021 09:15

Wow.... how emotional was that. RIP to all those women and as Jess says in honour of those let's all be better friends/ relatives and be available to all women experiencing domestic violence and abuse.

Numicon · 12/03/2021 09:10

Jess Phillips thinks men can be women.