Jess Philips counting dead women

This is the first I've heard of this and I'm very pleased she does this

I've also been pleased to hear the media start talking about 'male violence against women and girls'. Instead of just violence against women and girls. I hope they keep that up but won't hold my breath.

I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the way mainstream media has managed to ignore the siren calls to divert the message with ‘what about the men’s’ and ‘not all men’s’, and the more virulent voices around trans pr which encroaches on any attempt to talk about women’s needs these days.

Women’s voices have been diverted and suffocated as the norm these past couple of years so, somewhat sadly, I was pleased that it hadn’t happened now. That shows how low the bar is... but any opening of the ways is welcomed when you’re as penned in as we’ve become I guess.

So over 2 years. That’s really fantastic! You’d think TRAs would be shouting that from the rooftop. It’s great they’re so safe.

A TRA who has appeared round these parts before was making accusations of Jess Phillips and Karen Ingala Smith deliberately leaving women of colour out of the list as well 🙄

A transwoman called Amy Griffiths was murdered in January 2019, her murderer was sentenced a few days ago. I believe she is the last transwoman to be murdered in the UK.

Jess Phillips was on Andrew Marr this morning - ostensibly to talk about this but obviously it was overshadowed by the events in Clapham. But credit where it’s due, I’m watching on iPlayer now and she’s doing her best to turn the focus back to VAWG and actions needed from government.

Very well answered when AM asked her why misogyny should be a hate crime, citing senior female police officers saying that the public’s priorities are things like burglary and the police can’t do everything (I remember this argument), and JP swiftly turned it round with the point (paraphrasing!) that this is the fucking problem, that the ‘general public’ are more concerned about burglary and bins and statues and flytipping than they are about VAWG, and shouldn’t there be some leadership from authority to address that.

Thank you. I've just corrected someone who posted on Facebook that 'Jess Philips deliberately removed the names of trans women' and she deleted her post.

Well done.

I believe the last transwoman murdered in the uk was Naomi Hersi in March 2018.

Thank you. I've just corrected someone who posted on Facebook that 'Jess Philips deliberately removed the names of trans women' and she deleted her post.

In this country Maze yes we can be sure.

There was the murder of Naomi Hersi in 2018 which was in connection to a sex and drugs binge and both the murder Jesse MacDonald and his girlfriend were sentenced. MacDonald went to prison.

If there has been a murder of a trans person in the last year we would have heard about it.

Is it definitely the case that no TW were murdered this year?
Just like the 'Jess Philips removed the names of trans women' line that is uncritically accepted by TRAs is this a line that we have uncritically accepted or is it definitely true?

I listened to every name. I surprised myself by how emotional I found it. Very powerful I think.

Until the male sex accept their responsibility to change their behaviours/ challenge their brothers when they behave inappropriately and stop implicitly supporting these behaviours by burying their heads in the sands of the " It's not all Men" desert, nothing will change and some woman will still be reading out yet another list in 30,50,100....... years time.

They were all killed by males. This is male violence against women and we shouldn't be sidetracked.

Please don't make this about TW. It's not. It about women.

Shocking list of names. Thank you to Jess Philip's and Karen Ingala Smith. Am so sorry it's necessary.

I have heard more people today talk about violence against women and girls than ever before. About practical things we can do. That things need to change. That it's about sex, how men see women, about the value and status society places on women.

#Makemisogynyahatecrime.

Not agreeing with everything is fine.

It's great that she does this even if she currently believes (or says she believes) that TWAW. I would be very interested in her views on sex-based rights.

My worry is that for all the good work done highlighting this, to then just allow any male who feels like it to be part of the female sex class, undoes the gains achieved. How can women escape male violence, when we can never say 'no' to them?!

Where were they when girls were being systematically abused in towns like Rotherham?

Someone on a different thread (which I now can't find) said that at least 2 of the women on that list were murdered by transwomen. Does anyone know if that's true?

It's great that she does this even if she currently believes (or says she believes) that TWAW. I would be very interested in her views on sex-based rights.

I was very pleased hear Jess say 'I can't change the chromosomes in my body' when she was discussing violence against women on the Radio 4 today programme the other day. She knows it's because of sex, she's just too scared to say it out loud. I think it's great that she reads the list compiled by Karen Ingala Smith every year.

I think Jess may be a MN’er. Keep up the good work you are doing in raising awareness of femicide, Jess.

Someone who says they will seek protections for women, but includes male rapists in their definition of women, is not really seeking to protect women. If we can never say 'no' to having males in our spaces, we can never say 'no' to male violence.